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    Default Re: David Haye- wasted talent?

    Michael Moorer wasn't a bad fighter at all, he would have given Haye a fight but featherfisted? He was a good solid puncher, power in speed and combinations....he just fought stupidly vs Foreman.

    Moorer was a guy I wished fought other top contenders at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Michael Moorer wasn't a bad fighter at all, he would have given Haye a fight but featherfisted? He was a good solid puncher, power in speed and combinations....he just fought stupidly vs Foreman.

    Moorer was a guy I wished fought other top contenders at the time.
    Moorer was really fighting well above his weight class. He was more effective as a LH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Michael Moorer wasn't a bad fighter at all, he would have given Haye a fight but featherfisted? He was a good solid puncher, power in speed and combinations....he just fought stupidly vs Foreman.

    Moorer was a guy I wished fought other top contenders at the time.
    Moorer was really fighting well above his weight class. He was more effective as a LH.
    Moorer suffered with a not great chin.

    They are a funny old thing, chins.

    Some fighters can move up through the weights and take the best anyone has to offer.

    Some fighters chins improve as they go up. Cotto for instance. Cunningham is taking heavyweight shots better than he took cruiser weights.

    You have to wonder whether these fighters must be fighting well under a safe weight in the divisions they are in.

    Maybe there should be a new world belt called the natural weight belt where a fighters BMI or hydration is measured and there is a safe limit they are allowed to weigh in at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Michael Moorer wasn't a bad fighter at all, he would have given Haye a fight but featherfisted? He was a good solid puncher, power in speed and combinations....he just fought stupidly vs Foreman.

    Moorer was a guy I wished fought other top contenders at the time.
    Moorer was really fighting well above his weight class. He was more effective as a LH.
    Moorer suffered with a not great chin.

    They are a funny old thing, chins.

    Some fighters can move up through the weights and take the best anyone has to offer.

    Some fighters chins improve as they go up. Cotto for instance. Cunningham is taking heavyweight shots better than he took cruiser weights.

    You have to wonder whether these fighters must be fighting well under a safe weight in the divisions they are in.

    Maybe there should be a new world belt called the natural weight belt where a fighters BMI or hydration is measured and there is a safe limit they are allowed to weigh in at.
    lolol....
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    Default Re: David Haye- wasted talent?

    BMI is an awful metric to use...

    Not so sure about Cunningham's chin either, think he's been on the canvas in something like 4 of his last 5 bouts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    BMI is an awful metric to use...

    Not so sure about Cunningham's chin either, think he's been on the canvas in something like 4 of his last 5 bouts?
    But you'd think any heavyweights punch would KO him the way he reacted at cruiser.

    Look at the difference in the two Adamek fights. He got dropped a couple of times at cruiser then didn't at heavy and got robbed!
    Hes soon to fight another undefeated heavy in Glazkov and I think becomes a mandatory if he wins. I think he beats wilder if he gets that.

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    Default Re: David Haye- wasted talent?

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Michael Moorer wasn't a bad fighter at all, he would have given Haye a fight but featherfisted? He was a good solid puncher, power in speed and combinations....he just fought stupidly vs Foreman.

    Moorer was a guy I wished fought other top contenders at the time.
    Moorer was really fighting well above his weight class. He was more effective as a LH.
    Moorer was a great puncher AT LHW..

    He was a HW featherfist.

    I don't think Moorer could have beaten many of the SHW punchers of the 90's, I think they would have ran through and flattened him.

    He was good against Foreman because he was so slow (until he got tagged) and against Holyfield who was a small HW and also not a big puncher at HW.

    Good fighter, but he'd never hang with Haye ever.
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    I think David Haye at his best could beat Rahman and maybe Holyfield. Very few have his speed and power. People who say Tyson Fury could beat haye are falling for the Fury hype.

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