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[Primo Carnera]

You don't have to say EXACT for my benefit.

[AdamGB]

Really? I thought I had to spell things out to the letter for you to stop them going over your head, now you're telling me I don't actually have to be too precise? Which is it?

[Primo Carnera]

Really? I thought I had to spell things out to the letter for you to stop them going over your head, now you're telling me I don't actually have to be too precise? Which is it?

Like I said, you don't have to use exact , Same will do for me. Same means SAME, you don't have to emphasise it with EXACT.
So let's make it clear an overhead swinging Right is the SAME punch as a Straight Right? And with one , Manny was moving backwards, while the other, he walks straight onto it.
So does that mean an uppercut and a jab are the SAME punch as well.
After all, I'm led to believe that you're the Boxer so you tell me.

[goti71]

Margarito was paid/blackmailed into letting Pacquiao beat the shit out of him.

[AdamGB]

Really? I thought I had to spell things out to the letter for you to stop them going over your head, now you're telling me I don't actually have to be too precise? Which is it?

Like I said, you don't have to use exact , Same will do for me. Same means SAME, you don't have to emphasise it with EXACT.
So let's make it clear an overhead swinging Right is the SAME punch as a Straight Right? And with one , Manny was moving backwards, while the other, he walks straight onto it.
So does that mean an uppercut and a jab are the SAME punch as well.
After all, I'm led to believe that you're the Boxer so you tell me.

A Ford Fiesta and an Opel Corsa are not the exact same car, but they are the same type of car... If I drive a hatchback into you, I don't really think you'll care if it was a Corsa or a Fiesta, the fact that you've spent a lifetime not looking when you cross the road is probably more important.

If you want to get excited because I said same punch instead of 'type' of punch then that's your problem, like I said... I underestimated the intelligence of my audience, next time I'll write it out in precise detail for you and use big colour pictures.

Only an idiot could watch a 9 minute (I'm sure you'll correct me, was it not precisely 9 minutes?) montage of Pac getting continually hit by a variety of right hands, in a variety of situations and by a variety of punchers and call it a 'careless, one off mistake' when he inevitably got KO'd by one eventually.

[Primo Carnera]

Really? I thought I had to spell things out to the letter for you to stop them going over your head, now you're telling me I don't actually have to be too precise? Which is it?

Like I said, you don't have to use exact , Same will do for me. Same means SAME, you don't have to emphasise it with EXACT.
So let's make it clear an overhead swinging Right is the SAME punch as a Straight Right? And with one , Manny was moving backwards, while the other, he walks straight onto it.
So does that mean an uppercut and a jab are the SAME punch as well.
After all, I'm led to believe that you're the Boxer so you tell me.

A Ford Fiesta and an Opel Corsa are not the exact same car, but they are the same type of car... If I drive a hatchback into you, I don't really think you'll care if it was a Corsa or a Fiesta, the fact that you've spent a lifetime not looking when you cross the road is probably more important.

If you want to get excited because I said same punch instead of 'type' of punch then that's your problem, like I said... I underestimated the intelligence of my audience, next time I'll write it out in precise detail for you and use big colour pictures.

Only an idiot could watch a 9 minute (I'm sure you'll correct me, was it not precisely 9 minutes?) montage of Pac getting continually hit by a variety of right hands, in a variety of situations and by a variety of punchers and call it a 'careless, one off mistake' when he inevitably got KO'd by one eventually.

This could go on forever, especially if you want to add words like TYPE to Same to justify your weak , futile argument. I won't go into how a Fiesta and a Corsa are not the SAME , as you are clearly not getting it and I don't want to stretch you mentally.
So , you originally would have us believe that JMM had made a lifetime study of Pac and come up with that "Eureka Moment!" Perhaps on that basis , we should put him in the same bracket as Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein!
Whereas in reality, it took him the best part of 4 fights to prove his theory, and surely aren't most Southpaws that throw a lot of combinations Susceptible (apologies if the word is too long for you) to getting hit by a dangerous Right hand, whether it be a straight , jab, cross, hook, uppercut or Haymaker!
Hardly fuckin rocket science or splitting the atom is it?
Finally, how come I'm the pedantic one, when you were the one that when told it was a thread of unpopular opinions, you tried to differentiate between "unpopular" and " Unsubstantiated" !

[ross]

Had Calzaghe fought the younger Hopkins, jones he would have still outworked them.

Toney too.

[AdamGB]

Had Calzaghe fought the younger Hopkins, jones he would have still outworked them.

Toney too.

Personally I think an older Hopkins beat him anyway so I'm going to disagree using my own unpopular opinion!

[AdamGB]

Really? I thought I had to spell things out to the letter for you to stop them going over your head, now you're telling me I don't actually have to be too precise? Which is it?

Like I said, you don't have to use exact , Same will do for me. Same means SAME, you don't have to emphasise it with EXACT.
So let's make it clear an overhead swinging Right is the SAME punch as a Straight Right? And with one , Manny was moving backwards, while the other, he walks straight onto it.
So does that mean an uppercut and a jab are the SAME punch as well.
After all, I'm led to believe that you're the Boxer so you tell me.

A Ford Fiesta and an Opel Corsa are not the exact same car, but they are the same type of car... If I drive a hatchback into you, I don't really think you'll care if it was a Corsa or a Fiesta, the fact that you've spent a lifetime not looking when you cross the road is probably more important.

If you want to get excited because I said same punch instead of 'type' of punch then that's your problem, like I said... I underestimated the intelligence of my audience, next time I'll write it out in precise detail for you and use big colour pictures.

Only an idiot could watch a 9 minute (I'm sure you'll correct me, was it not precisely 9 minutes?) montage of Pac getting continually hit by a variety of right hands, in a variety of situations and by a variety of punchers and call it a 'careless, one off mistake' when he inevitably got KO'd by one eventually.

This could go on forever, especially if you want to add words like TYPE to Same to justify your weak , futile argument. I won't go into how a Fiesta and a Corsa are not the SAME , as you are clearly not getting it and I don't want to stretch you mentally.
So , you originally would have us believe that JMM had made a lifetime study of Pac and come up with that "Eureka Moment!" Perhaps on that basis , we should put him in the same bracket as Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein!
Whereas in reality, it took him the best part of 4 fights to prove his theory, and surely aren't most Southpaws that throw a lot of combinations Susceptible (apologies if the word is too long for you) to getting hit by a dangerous Right hand, whether it be a straight , jab, cross, hook, uppercut or Haymaker!
Hardly fuckin rocket science or splitting the atom is it?
Finally, how come I'm the pedantic one, when you were the one that when told it was a thread of unpopular opinions, you tried to differentiate between "unpopular" and " Unsubstantiated" !

Because there's a huge difference between unpopularity and substantiation ('apologies if the word is too long for you' redux), whereas the difference between a right cross and a right straight is relatively trivial by comparison.

I don't recall saying that hooks/uppercuts/jabs were the same? Save the straw man argument please. Crosses, straights and overhands thrown from the backhand are all the same type of punch.

JMM always knew Pac was susceptible to the right hand (overhand, looping, straight, cross and any other differential you need) you need to maybe actually pay attention when watching their fights... He'd used the right hand liberally for 3 fights (particularly the 3rd) as part of his usual style of trying to counter and outwork Pac, rather than fight with a knockout mentality. Heres another 10 minutes if footage for you to ignore. Same punches, different approach

http://youtu.be/O5Mqa6tDLRU

the fact that in their 4th he was twice as aggressive as usual, stood and took more risks and did something completely new by hiring a strength coach ought to tell you that JMM was taking a different approach and had every intention of capitalising on the life long vulnerability of Pac's... It's quite clear from round one onwards what JMM was looking to do this time, assuming you actually understand what you're watching of course...

After consistently finding his mark with the right hand and getting robbed again, why wouldn't he plan to come back more aggressively and throw it with actual knock out intentions the next time to take it away from the judges?

Pac's in for a painful night with Mayweather if he's stupid enough to write off JMM's (non specific variety of) right hand(s) as a lucky punch and the result of merely a single moment of carelessness. Please never become a boxing coach, you'll get somebody hurt.

[Primo Carnera]

Really? I thought I had to spell things out to the letter for you to stop them going over your head, now you're telling me I don't actually have to be too precise? Which is it?

Like I said, you don't have to use exact , Same will do for me. Same means SAME, you don't have to emphasise it with EXACT.
So let's make it clear an overhead swinging Right is the SAME punch as a Straight Right? And with one , Manny was moving backwards, while the other, he walks straight onto it.
So does that mean an uppercut and a jab are the SAME punch as well.
After all, I'm led to believe that you're the Boxer so you tell me.

A Ford Fiesta and an Opel Corsa are not the exact same car, but they are the same type of car... If I drive a hatchback into you, I don't really think you'll care if it was a Corsa or a Fiesta, the fact that you've spent a lifetime not looking when you cross the road is probably more important.

If you want to get excited because I said same punch instead of 'type' of punch then that's your problem, like I said... I underestimated the intelligence of my audience, next time I'll write it out in precise detail for you and use big colour pictures.

Only an idiot could watch a 9 minute (I'm sure you'll correct me, was it not precisely 9 minutes?) montage of Pac getting continually hit by a variety of right hands, in a variety of situations and by a variety of punchers and call it a 'careless, one off mistake' when he inevitably got KO'd by one eventually.

This could go on forever, especially if you want to add words like TYPE to Same to justify your weak , futile argument. I won't go into how a Fiesta and a Corsa are not the SAME , as you are clearly not getting it and I don't want to stretch you mentally.
So , you originally would have us believe that JMM had made a lifetime study of Pac and come up with that "Eureka Moment!" Perhaps on that basis , we should put him in the same bracket as Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein!
Whereas in reality, it took him the best part of 4 fights to prove his theory, and surely aren't most Southpaws that throw a lot of combinations Susceptible (apologies if the word is too long for you) to getting hit by a dangerous Right hand, whether it be a straight , jab, cross, hook, uppercut or Haymaker!
Hardly fuckin rocket science or splitting the atom is it?
Finally, how come I'm the pedantic one, when you were the one that when told it was a thread of unpopular opinions, you tried to differentiate between "unpopular" and " Unsubstantiated" !

Because there's a huge difference between unpopularity and substantiation ('apologies if the word is too long for you' redux), whereas the difference between a right cross and a right straight is relatively trivial by comparison.

I don't recall saying that hooks/uppercuts/jabs were the same? Save the straw man argument please. Crosses, straights and overhands thrown from the backhand are all the same type of punch.

JMM always knew Pac was susceptible to the right hand (overhand, looping, straight, cross and any other differential you need) you need to maybe actually pay attention when watching their fights... He'd used the right hand liberally for 3 fights (particularly the 3rd) as part of his usual style of trying to counter and outwork Pac, rather than fight with a knockout mentality. Heres another 10 minutes if footage for you to ignore. Same punches, different approach

http://youtu.be/O5Mqa6tDLRU

the fact that in their 4th he was twice as aggressive as usual, stood and took more risks and did something completely new by hiring a strength coach ought to tell you that JMM was taking a different approach and had every intention of capitalising on the life long vulnerability of Pac's... It's quite clear from round one onwards what JMM was looking to do this time, assuming you actually understand what you're watching of course...

After consistently finding his mark with the right hand and getting robbed again, why wouldn't he plan to come back more aggressively and throw it with actual knock out intentions the next time to take it away from the judges?

Pac's in for a painful night with Mayweather if he's stupid enough to write off JMM's (non specific variety of) right hand(s) as a lucky punch and the result of merely a single moment of carelessness. Please never become a boxing coach, you'll get somebody hurt.

Listen, if it makes you happy to keep backstroking on what you've said to continually try to justify your dross, then crack on! but please spare me the old "I've been between the ropes so I know everything and you know fuck all" horseshit.
This thread was all about People having opinions that may be a touch controversial and everyone else reading them and just thinking "mmm" or "what a prick!" They weren't supposed to be debated ad infinitum otherwise they would've had their own individual thread. I notice you're the only fucker to make comments on not just mine but other people's "Unpopular opinions" , which was the total opposite of the spirit of the thread.
I've humoured you for long enough, so don't bother replying, because although it was fun at first ridiculing your silly argument, I've got bored with it now and there's a couple of walls I've just painted and I would rather watch them dry!