[QUOTE=El Kabong;1307612]OK, fair enough allow me to retort....

The topic is about Boehner being an "asshole". Why? Because he invited Netanyahu to speak to Congress without the President's approval.
Exactly. And I raised the point that it isn't the 1st time he's been accused of being an asshole and that he as an asshole has divided his own damn party along Tea partiers/Conservatives, to compound what makes him an asshole.


Netanyahu is the Prime Minister of Israel, Israel is one of the closest Allies of the United States.

To me this is one of those outrageous lies told by conservatives. By definition: when has Israel-ever, EVER been an ally to us? Or are we re-writing the definition? Ally:
to join (yourself) with another person, group, etc., in order to get or give support

Britain fits that definition. Poland fits it.
Why? Because when we needed support in our so-called wars like the Gulf War up to the last bullshit war. They put boots on the ground. Did Israel? Israel is America's pimp. Israel dictates our foreign policy. Israel has compromised our leadership with people like Richard Perle to Paul Wolfowitz who stated himself: WMD was chosen as a reason America would follow and not as the truth. It was a lie to him and who has denounced the undersecretary of the Pentagon for that? Not a gosh-darn-dang-tootin' Republican. They have shut their trappers when it comes to denouncing their own.
Even if...If Israel has sent troops to die for causes [which they haven't].. we send our own to die- how do you figure that is not a divisive move..to invite a leader of a nation without the current leader of this nation?

So "we" (by "we" I mean Brockton, and whoever else is offended by Boehner's move) are up in arms because the Majority Leader of the House wanted the leader of a nation closely allied with us to speak to a joint session of Congress.
No, you are dead-ass-out wrong- you started it out right, but truncated the rationale for the post- it would have went like this if you were serious about the whole truth and not partial truth:

...Majority Leader of the House wanted the leader of a nation closely allied with us to speak to a joint session of Congress...WITHOUT THE PRESIDENT. And I like how you keep adding this (closely) allied nation, like that makes it ok. It does not.




So when we get down to brass tacks the headline is: "Prime Minister of national ally speaks to Congress without Presidential approval." That is why Boehner is an asshole?
Yup. But again, I added my two cents by showing non-Americans who are reading this thread...Boner aka Boehner isn't very well liked by Tea Partiers, either. I also gave those who aren't familiar with (objective) politics like MINES That he is so divisive that for the first time in 100 years of American history-25 outta 29 of his own dang-diggity-dog partisan party voted AGAINST HIM. Feel free to omit that, Like you've done for the most of this one-sided drubbing I'm handing out.

That seems rather miniscule in comparison to what Boehner's predecessor did does it not?
Interpolation over interpretation is a sad comeback. Always you feel the need to make comparisons. Boner I mean Boehner's predecessor was Dennis Hastert- A republican forced to step down. Before him was Tom Delay...forced to step down. And before him was Newt Gingrich ..forced to step down. Let the non-American know that Pelosi came into power because your CON-servatives couldn't find a house majority/minority leader who couldn't stay without stepping down for their dirt-bag doings.
But I digress; since you like to take things outta context, please enlighten me just a bit more: What did Pelosi do, that makes this move so pale in comparison that we should all say...well damn! I guess Boehner isn't that bad...now that we know what his predecessor do. So what was it again mi amigo?

Inviting the leader of an allied nation over to speak to Congress doesn't seem like it would cause such a great stir....
That's an opinion, please don't go Maxpower on me and upgrade an opinion to a fact.

it's not as though Boehner took the President's political legs out from under him, it's not as though Boehner told the nation (nay the WORLD) that "The war is lost" during an actual war is it?
What are talking about? If I understand your point- then from here on out; any house leader can invite another nation's leader without the POTUS? And we are supposed to be cool with it? Remember your words here. Then use some fortune cookie-response? It's not as if the next Democratic house speaker has taken the political legs out from Romney/Jeb Bush or whomever.


Why is it divisive to have the leader of an Allied nation speak to Congress?
Why don't you ask the owner of this thread?

Because he doesn't get along with our current President?
I don't get along with my co-workers, but I don't allow that to interfere with being a pro at my job. Most would never know who I loathe at work, because of my work ethic. Boehner has done no less than a hundred stupid ass stunts, insults and political posturing, this aint the 1st: its the latest. Wake up dude.


Well I'm sorry I thought that President Barack Obama was going to IMPROVE the way leaders of other nations thought of the United States,
I think that isn't the truth. I think that is typical conservative-sarcasm. Show me here. Show me a post, a link, a postcard where you wrote, typed your feelings of Obama was to improve. Based on your words here: you've hated him since day one. Find something that remotely makes those words sound true and I will log on here at saddo as: Kabong's student. Otherwise you cant sell no wolf tickets here G when it comes to politics? I was through with it- b4 U knew what to do with it.

he was going to improve the standing of the United States in the world,
Surely there was reason to think that-since that last prez was so hated by the nations, a dude threw shoes at him. Remember? Remember when Bush walked on stage with a dozen leaders who all shook hands with each other and NOT Bush? I could send the link if ya need. Surely though you are right that we needed to improve the standings of the U.S. in the world, Question is-why did we need to do that? Unless someone so fucked it up, so bad, so long, that Obama as asked to fulfill it. He failed it, but it has to be understood: IT meaning improve what Bush fucked up: Our standings in the world.

he was going to undo the evil which President George W. Bush had done....those WERE his promises were they not?
I like how you start off with Benjamin..then fall right back into your I hate Obama-speech, like a knee-jerk reaction. Wow, you literally can't help yourself can you?
Yes those were his statements, hopes and promises. Some evils were saying he was going to capture the enemy, and actually do it: Osama, gone. Gadhafi gone. Pull troops out of Iraq, done-but took a while. Send more troops to the place he stated in his campaign was ground zero: Afghanistan: he did. And who has thrown shoes at him? None yet. Bush gave him the blueprint that he had for 8 years and utterly failed- Today Obama is more entangled in this jack-the-fucked-up mess. Cant side with one nation in this-without causing a stir on the other side. So with Isis- The prez appeared to have at least gained allies with Iraq to help- I wonder is Israel our..as U say CLOSEST Ally helping? Syria, Lebanon, UAE, shit even Iran hates ISIS and US, but is working to fuck up ISIS- which is to our advantage. But don't give the prez any credit for that. Turkey, Jordan, Qatar, Bahrain all in it to curb ISIS. To some degree -yes that is undoing some of Bush's evil ass plan to start a war with stateless enemies...in the name of WMD..shit that not one damn ISIS is using. Are they? Naw, their using stone-aged tools like knives & machetes and shit.

Who are America's regional allies in the fight against Isis? | World news | The Guardian


CANDIDATE Obama even promised to hold talks with despots without so much as batting an eye, no preconditions
Sorry & Sad. Yeah candidates do that. They make promises they rarily keep. Let us know in one of these threads a POTUS U picked that kept their promise. WHO Romney? He spoke on every side of the issue and was called a multiple choice candidate. So sorry you cant find a person to beat Obama. hell, he one the electoral and popular vote. TWICE. That's how pathetic the Republicans candidates are. We chose a loser in Obama over a flip-the-fuckin-flop in Romney. We both out to be shamed Kabong. Me for Obama and U for not having a clue on how to find a candidate that could even deliver a promise that he didn't contradict himself in the week's prior.

But to allow Netanyahu to speak to Congress was such a bad thing that he wouldn't even say yes to that....he wouldn't say yes to an ALLY regardless of whether or not he agreed with them or vice versa. Sounds like an untruth.

Seems to me that CANDIDATE Obama would have allowed the Prime Minister to make his points, make his speech, and then given a thoughtful, friendly response even if that response was explaining why President Obama disagreed with the Prime Minister. Are you aware that only Republicans in America see Ben as an ally? Look outside the Drudge world Fox and Fools. You'd be surprise to see that for very UN violation by Iraq, so, too is Israel a repeat offender. This thread is only the tip of the iceberg called Ben Naten-whatever his name is. I feel sorry for good citizens of Israel who has to put up with him. But you, sir? Go ahead and speak of him in a proud manner.