Quote Originally Posted by Mintymen
Quote Originally Posted by amat
Quote Originally Posted by Mintymen
IMO prime RJJ beats any SMW/LHW in history.
Greatest, imo, is based off of accomplishments. RJJ wins because he has all the benifits of modern training techniques and everything on his side. If it was a Best Fighter list, it would be almost all modern fighters.
Well, it's not his fault he was born in the generation where he has that advantage. But what about the modern training? Does RJJs skills and talent as you know not good enough to beat any SMW/LHW. Even the guys from any era had the modern training RJJ had I don't think they can beat RJJ.

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Well that's all speculation. But there were big fights to big made for RJJ, and he didn't make them. Great fighters have big fights. RJJ had no big fights aside from Ruiz. He has wins over big names, like Toney and Hopkins, but didn't face either while they were in their prime.

Again, if it were Who Is The Best Fighter ever to fight at each individual division then it would be a different story. But this is Greatest. And Greatest is predicated on things like big fights, longgevity, quality of competition etc. Actual talent doesn't factor in when comparing fighters of different eras. At least in my opinion it doesn't.