oh please. I myself single handedly have made el Kabong back down on several key points the first of which has to do with tin foil hats and Moon bats. after he back down on it I got him to back down slightly much less than I had desired but at least slightly about that whack job George W Bush now Lyle and I have been good for a couple of years it is only because he has come to see the light.that left right and center are all bought and paid for by special interests. I also thought I scored some major points with him because of how much I hate Obama and the freaking left wing whack jobs. also me and him are going to visit a couple of micro breweries down there or over there where Orville and Wilbur Wright first took to the air in 1902.