bring back 15 round fights

[brocktonblockbust]

@maxpower did you see 15 in norton-holmes? ali-frazier 1? etc

[Max Power]

@<a href="http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingforum/member.php?u=758" target="_blank">maxpower</a> did you see 15 in norton-holmes? ali-frazier 1? etc

Round 15 of Frazier/Ali featured the supposedly "iron chinned" Ali getting knocked down by featherfist handicapped dwarf Frazier, and both guys so utterly exhausted they were in an embrace complete with arm holding & head pushing for almost precisely 50% of the round.

As for Holmes vs Norton, I'll even provide the round as example.



- Sluggish performance,
- Slow
- Completely sapped of energy and strength.
- Absence of any appreciable skill level or sharpness
- Stand right in front of each other slugging it out, no foot, body or head movement like the punch bags of earlier eras.

There is absolutely no way that this can be confused with a modern 12 round fight!

And this is not to say that Holmes and even Norton were ALWAYS like this, it's simply that any stoppages or fight changing events that happened in those later rounds were largely due to nothing more than gas related or pacing reasons, not boxing performance.

When comparing fights from modern eras and past ones, it's necessary to delete rounds 13-15 for a couple of basic reasons.

If they were to fight today, they wouldn't have been able to KO or beat the opponent.

And even more profoundly, 15 round fights is actually an unfair advantage for the nostalgic boxers!

Conventional nostalgic argument goes "Past boxers were 15 rounders, modern boxers couldn't go 15 rounds anymore"

Max Power argument goes "If modern boxers were ALLOWED to box more rounds, modern boxers would have EVEN HIGHER KOratio's (more knockouts) than they already do!

[Master]

How can you not see that was a great round by 2 great fighters who put it all on the line at the highest level?

Max the moron.

[Max Power]

How can you not see that was a great round by 2 great fighters who put it all on the line at the highest level?

Max the moron.

It was a "competitive" round. That is what made it great.

There is a big difference between a competitive round with action and a great display of boxing prowess.

The big question I have is "what is an apparently great champion like Holmes doing in the 15th round with a guy like Norton in the first place!"

[Master]

How can you not see that was a great round by 2 great fighters who put it all on the line at the highest level?

Max the moron.

It was a "competitive" round. That is what made it great.

There is a big difference between a competitive round with action and a great display of boxing prowess.

The big question I have is "what is an apparently great champion like Holmes doing in the 15th round with a guy like Norton in the first place!"

The story was that Holmes was injured, think right bicep, but because this was his big title shot which he may never get again he went through with the fight. This was 15 rounds! Norton was a seasoned campaigner and Holmes was a relative novice who became a great champion.

What is not to understand?