bring back 15 round fights

[brocktonblockbust]

guys like Chris Arreola I don't think could fight 15 rounds. Even Bermain Stivyrne look completely exhausted after 8 or 9....never look so good beyond 8 rounds either and Mike Tyson certainly petered out after eight or nine rounds himself. Gone are the days or fighters could fight 15 solid rounds. Let's take a look at Rocky Marciano that monster just kept getting stronger and stronger the more rounds he fought. I think Rocky could probably fight 20 or 25 rounds no problem

[Max Power]

guys like Chris Arreola I don't think could fight 15 rounds. Even Bermain Stivyrne look completely exhausted after 8 or 9....never look so good beyond 8 rounds either and Mike Tyson certainly petered out after eight or nine rounds himself. Gone are the days or fighters could fight 15 solid rounds. Let's take a look at Rocky Marciano that monster just kept getting stronger and stronger the more rounds he fought. I think Rocky could probably fight 20 or 25 rounds no problem

ANY boxer can go ANY number of rounds depending on how well they pace themselves and how hard their opponent pushes the pace on them. Modern opponents are heavier and more explosive and would wear out a nostalgic boxer much faster. Conversely though a modern more heavier boxer must pace themselves more than their older counterparts else they will gas more easily also.

Bigger is better in boxing. Explosiveness is better in boxing, so long as energy conservatism is maintained for the number of rounds.

Stivernes workrate is so low he could easily make 15 rounds, the single Wilder fight where he looked exhausted he got beaten up for 12 rounds and suffered from rhabdomyolysis and dehydration and STILL survived.

And the Arreola comment was even more ridiculous. The HW with one of the best gas tanks in HW boxing today, able to at 240lbs push one of the hardest paces for 12 rounds on his opponents, wouldn't be able to scratch out an extra few? No way LOL

[brocktonblockbust]

yeah the championship rounds throughout history are what made boxing so spectacular. the only reason I would support going down to 12 roun's is for the fighter's safety.

[Master]

3 more rounds show who the real champion is and I think fighters like Floyd would love it.

[brocktonblockbust]

3 more rounds show who the real champion is and I think fighters like Floyd would love it.

hell yeah three more rounds to show off his ballerina skills

[Max Power]

Yes I could see how Mayweather would benefit from more rounds.

[brocktonblockbust]

Yes I could see how Mayweather would benefit from more rounds.

yes he could show off those twinkle toes for an extra 9 nauseating minutes

[Max Power]

Yes I could see how Mayweather would benefit from more rounds.

yes he could show off those twinkle toes for an extra 9 nauseating minutes

Please stop..

You just convinced me about the merits of those rounds being exciting.

And now the thought of watching 3 more rounds of Floyd calls it all into question again LOL

[brocktonblockbust]

Yes I could see how Mayweather would benefit from more rounds.

yes he could show off those twinkle toes for an extra 9 nauseating minutes

Please stop..

You just convinced me about the merits of those rounds being exciting.

And now the thought of watching 3 more rounds of Floyd calls it all into question again LOL

not calling it into question just realizing that's a fighter like Floyd would stink the place out even worse than he already stinks it out in 12 rounds

[SlimTrae]

3 more rounds show who the real champion is and I think fighters like Floyd would love it.

hell yeah three more rounds to show off his ballerina skills

Modern opponents are heavier and more explosive and would wear out a nostalgic boxer much faster.


Notice this statement can only be made to one division thus the knowledge here is :7 weight class-deficient. Unless we look at the extra 10 divisions added on in the past 20 or so years.

Oh, wait a modern Welterweight is much more lean in muscle mass, with his general nutrition centers at your local shopping mall. While those old Neanderthal Welterweight just aren't as toned, they don't have the modern techniques, the modern whey protein and creatine.
Obviously a 1960's MW would never compare with a modern day MW. Today's MW are totally bigger, stronger, smarter and more uh...athletic. Yeah that's it! More uh, athletic.

With that being said; the Jetsons' Astro would slaughter the Flintstones Dino. Dino is prehistoric, Astro is a scientific canine.

[Max Power]

3 more rounds show who the real champion is and I think fighters like Floyd would love it.

hell yeah three more rounds to show off his ballerina skills

Modern opponents are heavier and more explosive and would wear out a nostalgic boxer much faster.


Notice this statement can only be made to one division thus the knowledge here is :7 weight class-deficient. Unless we look at the extra 10 divisions added on in the past 20 or so years.

Oh, wait a modern Welterweight is much more lean in muscle mass, with his general nutrition centers at your local shopping mall. While those old Neanderthal Welterweight just aren't as toned, they don't have the modern techniques, the modern whey protein and creatine.
Obviously a 1960's MW would never compare with a modern day MW. Today's MW are totally bigger, stronger, smarter and more uh...athletic. Yeah that's it! More uh, athletic.

With that being said; the Jetsons' Astro would slaughter the Flintstones Dino. Dino is prehistoric, Astro is a scientific canine.

Well Slim, you actually did answer your own question here.

A MW today IS approximately 15lbs heavier on fight night AND much leaner too so all up we're talking a difference of about 25lbs or 2 or 3 divisions.

Even if we completely disregard weight when discussing limited divisions and strictly compare fighters cross eras who are the same size on fight night, the performance of the modern fighters over 12 rounds is FAR more explosive than before to the point it isn't debatable.

12 rounds is simply a superior figure for a boxing match over 15 beyond any doubt.

The ONLY thing relevant is that championship level fights are long enough for tactical boxing plans to play out (like wearing down the body etc), for which purpose, 12 rounds is AMPLE long enough.

Other than that, the longer a fight goes for, the more it is simply an endurance and a pacing game and the less it is an explosive event. Longer=weaker.

[Gandalf]

Only the Facebook generation could have a problem with 15 round fights. 'My attention span just can't take it!'. Please.

[brocktonblockbust]

here's 1 then for Facebook bwaha

[Max Power]

Only the Facebook generation could have a problem with 15 round fights. 'My attention span just can't take it!'. Please.

LOL Yeah, says the old boy on an online boxing forum!

[SlimTrae]

3 more rounds show who the real champion is and I think fighters like Floyd would love it.

hell yeah three more rounds to show off his ballerina skills

Modern opponents are heavier and more explosive and would wear out a nostalgic boxer much faster.


Notice this statement can only be made to one division thus the knowledge here is :7 weight class-deficient. Unless we look at the extra 10 divisions added on in the past 20 or so years.

Oh, wait a modern Welterweight is much more lean in muscle mass, with his general nutrition centers at your local shopping mall. While those old Neanderthal Welterweight just aren't as toned, they don't have the modern techniques, the modern whey protein and creatine.
Obviously a 1960's MW would never compare with a modern day MW. Today's MW are totally bigger, stronger, smarter and more uh...athletic. Yeah that's it! More uh, athletic.

With that being said; the Jetsons' Astro would slaughter the Flintstones Dino. Dino is prehistoric, Astro is a scientific canine.

Well Slim, you actually did answer your own question here.

A MW today IS approximately 15lbs heavier on fight night AND much leaner too so all up we're talking a difference of about 25lbs or 2 or 3 divisions.
Thanks to the 24 weigh rule yes, but their is a downside to that. See Brandon Rios vs Murray. Per his trainer Robert Garcia dude plumped up 20lbs, slowed him down. See Chavez Jr who blew up beyond 20lbs in 24 hours...he had health issues over that.
See the 1990's Michael Moorer could gain 10-15lbs then come in as a CW vs a LHW that shit is unfair. That's why he left the LWH division 22-0 22KO's helluva an advantage.


Even if we completely disregard weight when discussing limited divisions and strictly compare fighters cross eras who are the same size on fight night, the performance of the modern fighters over 12 rounds is FAR more explosive than before to the point it isn't debatable.
Ray Robinson had 108 & was explosive from bell 2 bell. Henry Armstrong 100 knockouts, Archie Moore 130 knockouts. These guys had dynamite in their hands that never softened over a bout.
Oh, wait.. I guess fighters of the past didn't have the well trained conditioned chins next?

12 rounds is simply a superior figure for a boxing match over 15 beyond any doubt.
Ten-Count for Jose Sulaiman - Boxing.com
Thank Jose for that. It was a move to benefit his ABC belt org. 15 round championship fights were reduced to 12 rounds for his benefit. Weigh-ins before fights were pushed back 24 hours for his benefit not the fighters and dang-tootin' sure not for the fans. & of course the 8 weight classes were spread out like manure in a field. Then add on those fagtastic catch weight fights. I mean why do like Armstrong and fight ...& win 3 different weight classes -without ballooning up in 24 hours and catchweighting his way to the Hall of Fame.

The ONLY thing relevant is that championship level fights are long enough for tactical boxing plans to play out (like wearing down the body etc), for which purpose, 12 rounds is AMPLE long enough.

I have no problem with 12 rounds fights, but I have a problem with fans who don't know the history of why it came to be. Only you -yourself can say if you knew this- or even if it matters to you. This is totally my opinion, nothing more.

Other than that, the longer a fight goes for, the more it is simply an endurance and a pacing game and the less it is an explosive event. Longer=weaker.

Once again I can think of too many fighters who brought their ass the whole of the game. Like Arguello vs Pryor. They fought harder in 14 rounds than most guys do in 4 rounds. Salvador Sanchez vs Azumah Nelson another example. There are a lot of stinkers that have gone on 15 or 12 rounds, but boxing fans. Hardcore fans not fans of an era or fans of this guy. But fans of boxing KNOW some of the greatest fights happened during the era of the 15 rounders.


Ten-Count for Jose Sulaiman - Boxing.com