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    its really amazing how you got access to both schmeling and Louis's scorecards. Were they actually judges or just sitting at ringside?

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    Default Re: Karl Mildenberger ~ 'I Had The Formula To Beat Cassius Clay'

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    its really amazing how you got access to both schmeling and Louis's scorecards. Were they actually judges or just sitting at ringside?
    Both Champion's were sitting next to each other at Ringside, at the front-left and near
    Karl Mildenberger's corner.

    Joe Louis scored Round 1 for the Champion, and Round 2 for Karl Mildenberger.

    Max Schmeling scored round 1 'Even', and Round 2 for Karl Mildenberger.

    Both later stated, that Cassius looked 'completely puzzled' by the southpaw-stance and
    squared-up style of the Challenger.

    Oddly, Referee - Teddy Waltham scored Round 2 'Even'.

    Judges > Nat Fleisher {United States} and Felix Ohlert {Germany} 'properly' scored Round 2 for Karl Mildenberger.
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 03-08-2015 at 07:28 PM.

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    Default Re: Karl Mildenberger ~ 'I Had The Formula To Beat Cassius Clay'

    Before the Round

    Television Announcer - Howard Cosell made the statement, that he looked at the Sports
    Reporters Scorecards at Ringside.

    He stated that the Champion won Round 1, and that Round 2 was very close. But it looks
    like many of the Journalists also scored the 2nd-Round for the Champion, though it was
    close and could have been called 'Even'.

    ~ Round 3 ~

    0:02 > Both meet at Center-Ring quickly.
    0:04 > Cassius sends out a left-jab, and immediately goes to circling to his right
    0:17 > Cassius has been 'flicking' out left-jabs, but they all are missing.
    0:25 > Mildenberger is stalking.

    0:27 > Cassius backs up to the back-right Corner.
    0:29 > Mildenberger scores with a quick 'right-right-left' to the face.
    0:30 > Mildenberger catches the Champion with a 'jarring' left-uppercut to the chin.
    0:31 > Cassius is back-pedaling along the right-side Ropes.

    0:32 > Cassius definitely hurt, as he backs up to the front-center Ring area.
    0:34 > Cassius sends out a 'lazy' left-right as Mildenberger is moving in.
    0:38 > Cassius sends out 'poking' left-jabs.
    0:39 > Cassius moves to the left-side Ring area.

    0:42 > Cassius is short with a left-hand, and circles 180* to the right-side Ring area.
    0:44 > Mildenberger is short with a 'double' right-hand.
    0:45 > Mildenberger scores with a solid right-hand to the Champion's face.
    0:47 > Mildenberger is now chasing Cassius around the Ring.

    0:49 > Mildenberger lands with a 'right-left' to the chin.
    0:50 > Cassius moves to the front Ropes.
    1:03 > The fighters move out to Center-Ring.
    1:04 > Cassius flicks out a left-jab.

    1:05 > Mildenberger lands a stiff right-hand to the body.
    1:09 > Cassius is short with a right-hand lead.
    1:10 > Cassius is short with left-jabs.
    1:12 > Cassius moves to the back Ring area.

    1:14 > Mildenberger scores with a straight left-hand lead as Cassius goes into the back Ropes.
    1:16 > Cassis scores with a good 'chopping' right-hand counter to the head.
    1:17 > Cassius circles 180* to Center-Ring.
    1:19 > Cassius is sending out left-jabs.

    1:21 > Mildenberger is bobbing-and-weaving, and doing a good job of avoiding the jabs.
    1:27 > Both are flicking out measuring jabs.
    1:38 > Both are now feinting each other, and not punching.
    1:43 > Mildenberger scores with '5' straight right-jabs to the Champion's face.

    1:47 > The Waldstadion Stadium erupts with 'roars'.
    1:48 > Mildenberger lands with a straight right-hand, forcing the Champion to lean back.
    1:50 > Cassius misses with a counter 'left-right'.
    1:55 > Cassius scores with a slapping left-hook {open glove}.

    1:56 > Cassius drops his hands low.
    1:57 > Mildenberger scores with a 'hard' straight left-hand to the Champion's face.
    1:58 > The Waldstadion Stadium 'erupts' again.
    1:58 > Cassius bends low, and backs into the back-right Corner.

    1:59 > Cassius puts his hands up near his head, and is 'hurt'.
    2:00 > Mildenberger moves in close, and drives '4' hard left-uppercuts into the Champion's chin.
    2:02 > Cassius back-pedals fast, and backs out to Center-Ring.
    2:02 > Mildenberger steps forward, and scores with a 'right-left'.

    2:03 > Cassius counters with a good right-hand to the jaw.
    2:04 > Cassius moves to the front Ring area near the Ropes.
    2:05 > Cassius fires out a left-hook to the head as Mildenberger is moving in.
    2:05 > Mildenberger 'slips', and almost falls down.

    2:06 > Mildenberger counters with a right-hook and Cassius slides to his left and away from the Ropes.
    2:07 > Cassius counters with a left-hook, and backs away.
    2:07 > Mildenberger is still pursuing.
    2:08 > Cassius tries a 'big' right-hand, but misses, as Mildenberger rolls away from the punch.

    2:10 > Mildenberger scores with a light 'right-right-left'.
    2:16 > Mildenberger moves in close.
    2:18 > Cassius drapes his left-arm over Mildenberger's neck.
    2:22 > Cassius is 'wild' with a 'left-right-left-right'.

    2:27 > Mildenberger is moving side-to-side, while bobbing.
    2:32 > Mildenberger is now moving backwards and away from any action.
    2:35 > Cassius lands with a 'glancing' right-hand lead.
    2:38 > Cassius is short with a right-hand.

    2:40 > Mildenberger is looking like he is resting, and protecting his earlier Round dominance.
    2:45 > Mildenberer moves to the left-side Ropes.
    2:46 > Cassius moves in, and lands with '2' light left-jabs.
    2:53 > Mildenberger is smartly moving, protecting his Round lead.
    2:56 > Cassius is looking to fire a right-hand, but the opening does not come.

    3:00 > Bell

    Round 3 > Karl Mildenberger

    Referee - Teddy Waltham scored Round 3 for Karl Mildenberger.

    Announcer - Howard Cosell scored the Round 'Even', obviously showing bias and 'brown nosing'
    for the Champion.

    'Stars and Stripes' called the Round 'Even'.

    Howard Cosell also made the statement that Joe Louis also scored the Round 'Even'. Which the
    'Brown Bomber' did not. Joe Louis scored Round 3 for Karl Mildenberger, as did Max Schmeling.
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 03-09-2015 at 05:21 AM.

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    Default Re: Karl Mildenberger ~ 'I Had The Formula To Beat Cassius Clay'

    During Round 3

    Howard Cosell, mentioned that he had scored the first 2-Rounds for Cassius Clay, but
    had the 2nd Round very close.

    Howard Cosell >
    "Cassius told me that he was going to start very fast, and possibly take the Challenger
    out of here right away. But, Cassius did not come out as fast as he had predicted."

    'Mildenberger is presenting all sorts of problems for Cassius. He's making Cassius miss.
    That left-handed stance is really causing a problem."

    Howard did mention that Mildenberger 'hurt' the Champion on '2' separate occasions
    in Round 3.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Howard did ask Joe Louis on what he thought:

    Joe Louis >
    "Mildenberger is fighting better than I expected. He's taking it to Clay. He fought well in
    Round 1, and he won Round 2."

    Howard Cosell >
    "It's because of his left-handed stance Joe."

    Joe Louis >
    "No, not really Howard. Mildenberger is not fighting like a true southpaw. He's squared up
    Howard, so he's really fighting in-between left-handed and right-handed."

    Howard Cosell >
    "But he's leading with right-jabs, just like a southpaw."

    Joe Louis >
    "He is not afraid, and is willing to trade. I'm impressed. He's landed a few good punches into
    Clay's face. But, he has no power at all. He's pushing his punches, but they're getting there."

    Howard Cosell >
    "But he's {Mildenberger} wide open for the right-hand, and he has been caught by a few."

    Joe Louis >
    "He's doing right by himself, as he is winning the Round in my view."
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 03-09-2015 at 05:20 AM.

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    Default Re: Karl Mildenberger ~ 'I Had The Formula To Beat Cassius Clay'

    ~ Round 4 ~

    0:02 > Both meet at Center-Ring.
    0:04 > Each circle each other 180*.
    0:06 > Cassius then circles 360* to his right.
    0:07 > Mildenberger is pressing steadily.

    0:12 > Mildenberger scores with a 'triple' right-jab.
    0:14 > Mildenberger follows up with a stiff straight right-hand to the Champion's face.
    0:17 > Cassius is at the back Ring area, and is still circling.
    0:20 > Cassius moves to the front-left Corner area.

    0:22 > Mildenberger steps in, and lands a solid left-hand into the Champion's head.
    0:23 > The Waldstadion fans erupt with roars.
    0:31 > Cassius is back to circling-and-dancing to his right.
    0:33 > Cassius is showing 'respect'.

    0:35 > Cassius lands a good hard left-jab to Mildenberger's right-eye.
    0:39 > Mildenberger counters with double right-jab to the mid-section.
    0:40 > Mildenberger lands a right-hand to the body.
    0:42 > Mildenberger 'feints' with a right-hand, then lands a solid straight-left into the Champion's face.

    0:43 > More loud roars from the Waldstadion fans.
    0:44 > Cassius moves to the left-side of the Ring while now circling to his left.
    0:45 > Mildenberger steps in,and lands a solid straight left to the Champion's face.
    0:46 > Mildenberger follows up with a 'jarring' left-uppercut to the chin while in-close.

    0:46 > The Waldstadion fans roar.
    0:47 > Cassius reels backwards towards the back-right Corner.
    0:47 > Cassius is definitely 'shaken'.
    0:48 > Cassius back-pedals into the back-right Corner.

    0:50 > Mildenberger fires in a fast 'triple' right-jab, and straight left-hand to the Champion's face.
    0:53 > Cassius back-pedals out, and moves across the Ring backwards to the front Ropes.
    0:55 > Cassius fires out a left-jab, and scores.
    0:58 > Cassius fires, but misses with a hard 'left-right' as Mildenberger ducks low.

    1:02 > Cassius comes back with another 'double' left-jab, but again misses.
    1:10 > Now it's Mildenberger who goes to circling-and-moving.
    1:16 > Both fighters move to Center-Ring.
    1:17 > Mildenberger is smartly 'bobbing-and-weaving'.

    1:20 > Mildenberger lunges forwards, and scores with an awkward 'double' right-hand to the head.
    1:22 > Both exchange hard punches, Cassius with a right-lead, and Mildenberger with a straight-left.
    1:23 > Mildenberger gets the better of the exchange, as Cassius backs away to his left.
    1:26 > Cassius moves to the left-side Ring area, and scores with '2' poking left-jabs to the face.

    1:30 > Mildenberger goes back to circling.
    1:32 > Mildenberger lands with a 'light' right-jab.
    1:34 > Cassius lands with a 'grazing' right-hand to the head.
    1:40 > Mildenberger starts to press forward, to put the pressure on the Champion.

    1:43 > Cassius catches Mildenberger coming in with a 'light' left-right to the face.
    1:46 > Mildenberger goes back to 'bobbing-and-weaving'.
    1:51 > Mildenberg scores with '2' right-jabs to the face.
    1:52 > Both fighters are now at Center-Ring.

    1:53 > Cassius goes back to dancing on his toes.
    1:57 > Cassius lands with several left-jabs to the face.
    2:01 > Cassius fires out with '5' fast left-jabs, but only '1' lands.
    2:03 > Mldenberger sticks in a 'stiff' right-hand into the Champion's belly.

    2:04 > Cassius goes back to circling to his left.
    2:05 > Cassius is now at the back Ring area.
    2:06 > Mildenberger steps in, and lands a big sweeping right-hook into the Champion's face.
    2:07 > Mildenberger follows with a 'jarring' left-hand to the chin.

    2:07 > The Waldstadion fans erupt with 'roars'.
    2:08 > Cassius reels backwards to the back right Corner.
    2:09 > The noise in the Waldstadion Stadium is 'deafening'.
    2:10 > Mildenberger moves in.

    2:10 > Cassius fires a quick right-hand lead to the head, to catch Mildenberger coming in.
    2:11 > Mildenberger counters the Champion, by firing with a straight left-hand to the face.
    2:12 > Cassius holds Mildenberger by the neck.
    2:14 > Cassius moves out to Center-Ring.

    2:17 > Cassius 'misses' with a big right-hook.
    2:20 > Mildenberger goes back to 'dancing', and moves to the back-center Ropes.
    2:22 > Each score with 'jabs' to each other's mid-section.
    2:23 > Cassius moves to the left-side Ring area.

    2:25 > Cassius sends out '3' left-jabs that partially land.
    2:27 > Cassius 'misses' with a straight right-hand, as Mildenberger ducks low.
    2:28 > Mildenberger scores with fast right-jab to the face.
    2:30 > Cassius moves to the back Ring area.

    2:32 > Mildenberger is 'bobbing-and-weaving' as he tries to move in.
    2:35 > Cassius 'misses 'badly' with a right-hook.
    2:37 > Cassius moves over to the right-side Ring area.
    2:39 > Cassius fires out '4' fast left-jabs, but only '1' lands.

    2:41 > Cassius comes back with a 'left-left-right'.
    2:42 > Mildenberger counters with a fast left-hand lead to the face of the Champion.
    2:43 > The punch sends Cassius off-balance to his left.
    2:45 > Cassius lands a good left-jab to the face.

    2:46 > Both fighters move to Center-Ring.
    2:47 > Cassius starts sending out 'pecking' left-jabs.
    2:48 > Mildenberger leans away to avoid the punches.
    2:50 > Mildenberger moves backwards to the front-center Ropes.

    2:51 > Cassius lands with a glancing right-hand to the Challenger's left-shoulder.
    2:54 > Cassius is short with a 'left-right'.
    2:57 > Mildenberger dances away to the right-side Ring area.
    3:00 > Bell

    Round 4 > Is clearly Karl Mildenberger's, based upon effective aggression, as well as
    landing the sharper and harder punches.

    Joe Louis >
    "Karl Mildenberger is putting up a much better fight than anyyone thought. Many
    expected him be out of here in the 1st or 2nd Round."

    Howard Cosell >
    "The Champion won the 1st-Round, and the 2nd-Round was close. But Mildenberger
    has done very well in the last 2-Rounds. This is a surprisingly even bout."

    Karl Mildenberger was showing signs of slight puffiness under both eyes, but looked
    confident.
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 03-09-2015 at 09:21 PM.

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    Default Re: Karl Mildenberger ~ 'I Had The Formula To Beat Cassius Clay'

    Spoiler alert Ali stops him in the last round.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: Karl Mildenberger ~ 'I Had The Formula To Beat Cassius Clay'

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Spoiler alert; Karl Mildenberger was as fast as Cassius Clay.
    Former Champion's Scorecards

    ..................Joe Louis ........... Max Schmeling.......Howard 'The Shill' Cosell..
    Round 1 ...... Clay ........................ 'Even' .......................... Clay
    Round 2 ...... Mildenberger............ Mildenberger ................ Clay
    Round 3 ...... Mildenberger ........... Mildenberger ............... 'Even'
    Round 4....... Mildenberger ........... Mildenberger ............... Mildenberger
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 03-09-2015 at 10:55 PM.

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