Wladimir is open for left hooks to the body

[Max Power]

Tyson would have hit him there and followed up with an uppercut and then finished him off.

Maybe, but Povetkin couldn't.

Equally likely is Wladimir "wraps him up in a cocoon of horror" LOL

Where were these finishing shots against Tillis, Green, Smith, Tucker and Douglas?

[Max Power]

Combinations and body shots are utterly worthless against Wladimir.

He's almost completely eliminated them as a method to beat him. His opponents know that.

[J_Undisputed]

Todays heavies don't have the head movement or speed to get inside. Klitchskos waiting for you to lower your hands and target the body to he can drop the hammer on you. The modified euro style still relies heavily on the power hand. Klitchskos or should i say the late emmanual steward replaced the old typical pawing with a snapping jab. So a man of klitchkos size looks to size you up with the telephone pole jab. If your at the end of it, expect the overhand right... if you move under it, expect the uppercut or hook to the body.

Now for the sake of argument, lets say you slip it, close the distance and hes squared up presenting you a shot at that rib cage with your left hook. You move in and you feel his elbow and forearm in the side/back of your neck as he attempts to stiff arm you push your head down throwing you off balance not allowing you to get your shot off. You option is to clinch and avoid being pushed out so he can get leverage with the left or throw punches with no leverage on them.

Best option if you slip that jab and feint left is to loop one over the top and straight down the middle as the jabs still out and hes faked into taking the high right away from his head to protect his ribs/ control your head. Of course you stand a better chance of of success if hes close to the ropes or corner, because he tends to go straight back and uses his feet to retreat and he stiff arms to create distance.

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One thing that frustrates me when watching his fights is he does this pointless bouncing around in front of the opponent. Why does no one rush him while he is doing this? He is not set and would not have the time to launch anything meaningful.

Tyson Fury will

[brocktonblockbust]

wlada-queer sucks

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Now for the sake of argument, lets say you slip it, close the distance and hes squared up presenting you a shot at that rib cage with your left hook. You move in and you feel his elbow and forearm in the side/back of your neck and he attempts to stiff arm you push your head down throwing you off balance not allowing you to get your shot off. You option is to clinch and avoid being pushed out so he can get leverage with the left or throw punches with no leverage on it.

I remember there was a video posted of Lennox Lewis showing Deontay Wilder how to jab 'with speed' and a comment was made that his hand position is what caused him to get nailed with overhand rights. However I think this was tweaked somewhat by his habit of shutting down distance and clamping on the back of the head/ neck with the outstreched lead hand, as a sort of breach fail-safe.

I guess he used it less often that Wladimir Klitschko as, although nither have any kind of inside game, Lennox did have a reasonable uppercut at his disposal.

[El Kabong]

Now for the sake of argument, lets say you slip it, close the distance and hes squared up presenting you a shot at that rib cage with your left hook. You move in and you feel his elbow and forearm in the side/back of your neck and he attempts to stiff arm you push your head down throwing you off balance not allowing you to get your shot off. You option is to clinch and avoid being pushed out so he can get leverage with the left or throw punches with no leverage on it.

I remember there was a video posted of Lennox Lewis showing Deontay Wilder how to jaband a comment was made that his hand position is what caused him to get nailed with overhand rights. However I think this was tweaked somewhat by his habit of shutting down distance and clamping on the back of the head/ neck with the outstreched lead hand, as a sort of breach fail-safe.

I guess he used it less often that Wladimir Klitschko as, although nither have any kind of inside game, Lennox did have a reasonable uppercut at his disposal.

Lennox took out Golota and Grant that way if memory serves me.

Wlad should add that uppercut to his arsenal he's got good technique with the rest of his punches I'd only assume that he could train it in. He's strong enough and quick enough to do the move Lennox used.

[Master]

Tyson would have hit him there and followed up with an uppercut and then finished him off.

Maybe, but Povetkin couldn't.

Equally likely is Wladimir "wraps him up in a cocoon of horror" LOL

Where were these finishing shots against Tillis, Green, Smith, Tucker and Douglas?

Remember Lou Savarese? Left hook to the top of the head and the rest is history. Biggs took a beating and cried like a woman.

[Max Power]

Tyson would have hit him there and followed up with an uppercut and then finished him off.

Maybe, but Povetkin couldn't.

Equally likely is Wladimir "wraps him up in a cocoon of horror" LOL

Where were these finishing shots against Tillis, Green, Smith, Tucker and Douglas?

Remember Lou Savarese? Left hook to the top of the head and the rest is history. Biggs took a beating and cried like a woman.

Yeah Tyson was Tyson.

But Savarese and Biggs have absolutely nothing in common with Wladimir Klitschko, those were the sort of opponents he might have faced right at the start of his career. The ones that he knocked straight out, nearly 20 in a row, in the first rounds!

[ross]

Tyson would have hit him there and followed up with an uppercut and then finished him off.

Maybe, but Povetkin couldn't.

Equally likely is Wladimir "wraps him up in a cocoon of horror" LOL

Where were these finishing shots against Tillis, Green, Smith, Tucker and Douglas?

Remember Lou Savarese? Left hook to the top of the head and the rest is history. Biggs took a beating and cried like a woman.

Yeah Tyson was Tyson.

But Savarese and Biggs have absolutely nothing in common with Wladimir Klitschko, those were the sort of opponents he might have faced right at the start of his career. The ones that he knocked straight out, nearly 20 in a row, in the first rounds!

He should have fought an olympic gold medalist a one of his first opponents and won in the first round?

Yes, he would have probably won anyway but either you are confused with who Biggs was or are just ignorant.

[Master]

Tyson would have hit him there and followed up with an uppercut and then finished him off.

Maybe, but Povetkin couldn't.

Equally likely is Wladimir "wraps him up in a cocoon of horror" LOL

Where were these finishing shots against Tillis, Green, Smith, Tucker and Douglas?

Remember Lou Savarese? Left hook to the top of the head and the rest is history. Biggs took a beating and cried like a woman.

Yeah Tyson was Tyson.

But Savarese and Biggs have absolutely nothing in common with Wladimir Klitschko, those were the sort of opponents he might have faced right at the start of his career. The ones that he knocked straight out, nearly 20 in a row, in the first rounds!

He should have fought an olympic gold medalist a one of his first opponents and won in the first round?

Yes, he would have probably won anyway but either you are confused with who Biggs was or are just ignorant.

He is ignorant. The reason why I chose those fighters was because of their hieght. They were the same height as Wlad. Tyson just needs to connect, not even the jaw, just the top of the head.

[brocktonblockbust]

Tyson would have hit him there and followed up with an uppercut and then finished him off.

Maybe, but Povetkin couldn't.

Equally likely is Wladimir "wraps him up in a cocoon of horror" LOL

Where were these finishing shots against Tillis, Green, Smith, Tucker and Douglas?

Remember Lou Savarese? Left hook to the top of the head and the rest is history. Biggs took a beating and cried like a woman.

Yeah Tyson was Tyson.

But Savarese and Biggs have absolutely nothing in common with Wladimir Klitschko, those were the sort of opponents he might have faced right at the start of his career. The ones that he knocked straight out, nearly 20 in a row, in the first rounds!

He should have fought an olympic gold medalist a one of his first opponents and won in the first round?

Yes, he would have probably won anyway but either you are confused with who Biggs was or are just ignorant.

He is ignorant. The reason why I chose those fighters was because of their hieght. They were the same height as Wlad. Tyson just needs to connect, not even the jaw, just the top of the head.

Tyson once spit into the bucket between rounds and 2 of his cornermen had to be taken away on a stretcher.

[Max Power]

Tyson would have hit him there and followed up with an uppercut and then finished him off.

Maybe, but Povetkin couldn't.

Equally likely is Wladimir "wraps him up in a cocoon of horror" LOL

Where were these finishing shots against Tillis, Green, Smith, Tucker and Douglas?

Remember Lou Savarese? Left hook to the top of the head and the rest is history. Biggs took a beating and cried like a woman.

Yeah Tyson was Tyson.

But Savarese and Biggs have absolutely nothing in common with Wladimir Klitschko, those were the sort of opponents he might have faced right at the start of his career. The ones that he knocked straight out, nearly 20 in a row, in the first rounds!

He should have fought an olympic gold medalist a one of his first opponents and won in the first round?

Yes, he would have probably won anyway but either you are confused with who Biggs was or are just ignorant.

Yeah I know exactly who we're talking about. And he was basically equivalent to many of Wlads early 1 round KO opponents, medal or not!

That is a fact!

Were Tyrell to box today, he would never be a factor.

[Max Power]

@Master

I am not ignorant.

I am sorry if I don't choose to compare apples to oranges like you do.

I suppose your reasoning would be "Ali beat Terrell, same size as Klitschko, therefore he could beat Klitschko too".

It's nonsense! Tyson only ONCE fought an opponent as good as Klitschko and it was the most sickening beating he ever received. The so called "prime" Tyson never fought an opponent 1/10th as good or strong as Klitschko.

Alexander Povetkin is a good analogue for Tyson and he was beaten.

These are just the facts! I didn't make them!

[brocktonblockbust]

wlad o queer