bring back 15 round fights

[SlimTrae]

Slim one of your comments sticks out to me here..

The one about Robinson and Moore etc with 100+ KO's on their record, flat strap from bell to bell and dynamite in their fists...

Tell THAT to Manny Pacquiao (regarding workrate)
U -R right. Pac has shown a gr8 workrate, but different from whom? Paul Williams and Margarito's workrate at one point was about 100 thrown per round. Then watch Norman Hayes vs Jake Lamotta, there were no punchstats then, but if I could estimate maybe 110 per round. Mickey Ward vs Drunken warrior averaged 100 plus per round. HW's Ike vs Tua averaged 80 per round. Pac is an example of what has already been happening. Era dont dictate workrate. Individuality does.

Tell THAT to Gennady Golovkin (regarding dynamite)
Why? he is a great prospect looking to do what others b4 him has done: KTFO's have long been a staple of the MW division. See Gerald McCellan 85% KO ratio. see Jr. Middleweight KO artist Julian Jackson- he is THE HUMAN ONE PUNCH HIGHLIGHT REEL 49 KOS out of 55 wins.

And as for the 100 KO's, the reason is the same as for WHY they could perform as they did perform...


They fought opposition so abysmally poor, hardly any if any of them would ever step foot in a boxing ring with a top rated professional, let alone not get knocked out well within 12, let alone 15!

Obviously nobody could have so many fights against good opposition.

I remember on a few occasions you responded to others that if they havent watched/viewed ALL the fighters opponents over thousands of them, then they shouldnt claim to know. Psst; practice what U preach.

[Max Power]

Slim one of your comments sticks out to me here..

The one about Robinson and Moore etc with 100+ KO's on their record, flat strap from bell to bell and dynamite in their fists...

Tell THAT to Manny Pacquiao (regarding workrate)
U -R right. Pac has shown a gr8 workrate, but different from whom? Paul Williams and Margarito's workrate at one point was about 100 thrown per round. Then watch Norman Hayes vs Jake Lamotta, there were no punchstats then, but if I could estimate maybe 110 per round. Mickey Ward vs Drunken warrior averaged 100 plus per round. HW's Ike vs Tua averaged 80 per round. Pac is an example of what has already been happening. Era dont dictate workrate. Individuality does.

Tell THAT to Gennady Golovkin (regarding dynamite)
Why? he is a great prospect looking to do what others b4 him has done: KTFO's have long been a staple of the MW division. See Gerald McCellan 85% KO ratio. see Jr. Middleweight KO artist Julian Jackson- he is THE HUMAN ONE PUNCH HIGHLIGHT REEL 49 KOS out of 55 wins.

And as for the 100 KO's, the reason is the same as for WHY they could perform as they did perform...


They fought opposition so abysmally poor, hardly any if any of them would ever step foot in a boxing ring with a top rated professional, let alone not get knocked out well within 12, let alone 15!

Obviously nobody could have so many fights against good opposition.

I remember on a few occasions you responded to others that if they havent watched/viewed ALL the fighters opponents over thousands of them, then they shouldnt claim to know. Psst; practice what U preach.

Well Slim...

That WAS actually what I considered one of my "smoking gun" arguments..

And I suppose you're right.. I also am not immune to that philosophy.

I'll shut up for now. Because from there on as you will tell me if I continue, it's only my opinion (with regards to modern training methods, skills, athleticism etc), I stand by it, I can see it! We KNOW of some methods now which have replaced old.

But statistically there's only really the weight argument, and if we adjust for real weight in lower divisions, then we're only really talking about HW.

Well done.

[SlimTrae]

Slim one of your comments sticks out to me here..

The one about Robinson and Moore etc with 100+ KO's on their record, flat strap from bell to bell and dynamite in their fists...

Tell THAT to Manny Pacquiao (regarding workrate)
U -R right. Pac has shown a gr8 workrate, but different from whom? Paul Williams and Margarito's workrate at one point was about 100 thrown per round. Then watch Norman Hayes vs Jake Lamotta, there were no punchstats then, but if I could estimate maybe 110 per round. Mickey Ward vs Drunken warrior averaged 100 plus per round. HW's Ike vs Tua averaged 80 per round. Pac is an example of what has already been happening. Era dont dictate workrate. Individuality does.

Tell THAT to Gennady Golovkin (regarding dynamite)
Why? he is a great prospect looking to do what others b4 him has done: KTFO's have long been a staple of the MW division. See Gerald McCellan 85% KO ratio. see Jr. Middleweight KO artist Julian Jackson- he is THE HUMAN ONE PUNCH HIGHLIGHT REEL 49 KOS out of 55 wins.

And as for the 100 KO's, the reason is the same as for WHY they could perform as they did perform...


They fought opposition so abysmally poor, hardly any if any of them would ever step foot in a boxing ring with a top rated professional, let alone not get knocked out well within 12, let alone 15!

Obviously nobody could have so many fights against good opposition.

I remember on a few occasions you responded to others that if they havent watched/viewed ALL the fighters opponents over thousands of them, then they shouldnt claim to know. Psst; practice what U preach.

Well Slim...

That WAS actually what I considered one of my "smoking gun" arguments..

And I suppose you're right.. I also am not immune to that philosophy.

I'll shut up for now. Because from there on as you will tell me if I continue, it's only my opinion (with regards to modern training methods, skills, athleticism etc), I stand by it, I can see it! We KNOW of some methods now which have replaced old.

But statistically there's only really the weight argument, and if we adjust for real weight in lower divisions, then we're only really talking about HW.

Well done.

LOL! I guess I'm too willing to go 15 posts (rounds) As far as some new methods replacing old: U R right. Obviously, something has to improve within the game-to that you ensure we old geezers objectively view.
Well done Max Power.

[Spicoli]

I'd be more interested in them simply because it ends in an odd number of rounds as opposed to 6-6 I just think guys would adjust accordingly with addition of 3 rounds. Maybe a couple more feel out rounds in beginning and it had a lot to do with network timelines also. I don't think had the Holmes-Norton or Holyfield-Qawi 1 late firefights been 12 rounders they would have lacked any of the intensity or action with respects to the level of those fighters and what they did with time they had.

[SlimTrae]

I'd be more interested in them simply because it ends in an odd number of rounds as opposed to 6-6 I just think guys would adjust accordingly with addition of 3 rounds. Maybe a couple more feel out rounds in beginning and it had a lot to do with network timelines also. I don't think had the Holmes-Norton or Holyfield-Qawi 1 late firefights been 12 rounders they would have lacked any of the intensity or action with respects to the level of those fighters and what they did with time they had.

Agreed. Obviously no right or wrong answer, but I am stumped as how any boxing fan would have a problem watching their favorite sport for an additional 3 rounds.

I wonder if a porn watcher thinks 1 1/2 hrs is enough, now this 2 dvd porn set...just too much time to yank.

[SlimTrae]

Ali vs Bonavena 15th round- Both fighters trading shots, Ali stands firm and lands a crushing left. Gr8 15th round...Only champions rise to this level.
Bonavena 46-6 lost to top HW's Zora Foley, Jimmy Ellis & Joe Frazier 2x- never stopped, until Ali.