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    Default Re: What did Joe Frazier have that Rocky Marciano didn't?

    Trust @smashup and beingkoed to bring this post down to the level of sex. You are worse than Bill Paxton.

    Brock take some medication. Fraizier was bigger, stronger, meaner than Rocky.
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    Default Re: What did Joe Frazier have that Rocky Marciano didn't?

    What did Frazier have that Marciano didn't?

    How about fights against several elite fighters who weren't old men and who were also in or still close to their prime as opposed to shot has-beens?

    To be fair though Marciano did have things that Frazier didn't, like mob intimidation and weak and old opposition.

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    Default Re: What did Joe Frazier have that Rocky Marciano didn't?

    Let's be honest, the ONLY reason a 185lb plodder like MArciano was a HW champ was because all sportsmen who were men at all were shot dead from fighting in the most extensive conflict in human history.

    Marciano's era represents a major dip in competition level which only really occurs during major epidemics or wars.

    Now Joe Frazier was right up there among the most useless boxers to ever make it big time but he was 210lbs, he would have decapitated Marciano imo. His chin failed dismally against what we would today call a SHW but against a blown up LHW like MArciano, how could he fail!

    I respect Rocky for his achievements but common sense has to prevail here.

    His 49-0 record featured not ONE, Not ONE SINGLE DECENT OPPONENT!
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    Joe Lewis was not a credible opponent? he was only 37 years old. George Foreman until he was 49. Larry Holmes for until he was 47. The Klitschkos are in their mid forties.please. Charles was not a credible opponent what are you smoking. Archie Moore and Roland la starza and don cockell were not credible opponents? Jersey Joe Walcott was not hit a credible opponent? Harry kid Matthews was not a credible opponent?

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    Default Re: What did Joe Frazier have that Rocky Marciano didn't?

    Joe Frazier

    Did have a more competitive group of Challengers.

    * Dave 'Ziggy' Zyglewicz
    * Ron 'The Council Bluff's Butcher' Stander

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    Default Re: What did Joe Frazier have that Rocky Marciano didn't?

    David Lemieux = Future MW Champ and P4P King

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    Default Re: What did Joe Frazier have that Rocky Marciano didn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    There they go. That's they one! That's they one!


    Classic scene, classic movie.

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    Default Re: What did Joe Frazier have that Rocky Marciano didn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Joe Lewis was not a credible opponent? he was only 37 years old. George Foreman until he was 49. Larry Holmes for until he was 47. The Klitschkos are in their mid forties.please. Charles was not a credible opponent what are you smoking. Archie Moore and Roland la starza and don cockell were not credible opponents? Jersey Joe Walcott was not hit a credible opponent? Harry kid Matthews was not a credible opponent?
    'Credible'? Yes
    At their peak or even close? No
    Shot? Often

    Are you telling me that because Big George fought till 47 that it some how makes it the norm?

    Heavyweights fight till older now, but it's not the 1940s anymore.

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