Manny should just go after the early KO

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That's not your cleverest post really is it....

Mayweather hasn't stopped anyone in years either so that fact equals that out, Manny is still knocking people down at least and recently too.
I'm basing this on what a limited skilled fighter (Maidana) was able to do to Floyd for a goo chunk of the first fight.
Now swap Maidana for a southpaw super fast fighter with great footwork and KO power (Pacquiao).

Of course he should go at Floyd like a maniac from the start because Floyd always finds a way to suss people out, re adjust and win on points.

You need to force Floyd to fight at speed and drag him into a situation where he has to fight back- not easy I know but it really is the only way to beat him.

He simply hasn't got the engine to compete like that anymore.

I'd actually be surprised if Floyd won this fight and have Manny as a favourite.

[J_Undisputed]

In most big fights. That first round is usually that "feeling out" round. Noone wants to run straight into a punch double the force and wind up laid out, so you go out and you test the guy speed, taste a little power and see how jumpy he is with a few feints. Then at the end, you want to take the round and send him back to his corner with something to think about for the rest of the fight.

That being said, I think both fighters will go and look to establish the pace. Each guy hasn't really show themselves to be one punch knockout artists at this weight. So I wouldn't be surprised to see mayweather look to shut manny down early by bedazzling him on the counters to send the message that "youre not going to get any work done here" simply because he knows that even though he can adjust midfight, he doesn't want to get behind manny on points because manny has already got the aggression on his side and can rack up points with flurries. So he knows he has to back manny up somehow and show him he cant run in freely and tee off.

Manny's knows that he has to shut down floyds confidence right away and give him something to think about, simply because he has no voice in his corner that can really reassure him and get him straight for this one. (I tend to agree with roach that Floyd sr is worse than roger because hes about himself a lot of the times) Clipping floyd or making him feel the sting will get him thinking and he may give you another around while hes adjusting. The objective for manny is to set a fast pace. Didnt give floyd time to think or adjust or set traps.

I've always felt the way to beat floyd is to catch him in transition. Floyds either in an offensive mode or a defensive mode. Hes good at both. If you pressure him and crowd him. He goes into his shell and either waits for you to gas, then he tries to counter you inside and get you stepping out while he's still fresh. Hopkins used to do this too. If you pressure him and then stop throwing and step out and then immediately go on the offense again, you'll sucker him out of his shell and catch him in between gears. Manny has to to be one step ahead on every gear change and stay unpredictable

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That's not your cleverest post really is it....

Mayweather hasn't stopped anyone in years either so that fact equals that out, Manny is still knocking people down at least and recently too.
I'm basing this on what a limited skilled fighter (Maidana) was able to do to Floyd for a goo chunk of the first fight.
Now swap Maidana for a southpaw super fast fighter with great footwork and KO power (Pacquiao).

Of course he should go at Floyd like a maniac from the start because Floyd always finds a way to suss people out, re adjust and win on points.

You need to force Floyd to fight at speed and drag him into a situation where he has to fight back- not easy I know but it really is the only way to beat him.

He simply hasn't got the engine to compete like that anymore.

I'd actually be surprised if Floyd won this fight and have Manny as a favourite.

Floyd's taps to the body and pinpoint accuracy and defense is all he needs to win..it really is that simple.

I look forward to our discussion post-fight...don't get all bitter on me after you see the result.

[Beanflicker]

That's not your cleverest post really is it....

Mayweather hasn't stopped anyone in years either so that fact equals that out, Manny is still knocking people down at least and recently too.
I'm basing this on what a limited skilled fighter (Maidana) was able to do to Floyd for a goo chunk of the first fight.
Now swap Maidana for a southpaw super fast fighter with great footwork and KO power (Pacquiao).

Of course he should go at Floyd like a maniac from the start because Floyd always finds a way to suss people out, re adjust and win on points.

You need to force Floyd to fight at speed and drag him into a situation where he has to fight back- not easy I know but it really is the only way to beat him.

He simply hasn't got the engine to compete like that anymore.

I'd actually be surprised if Floyd won this fight and have Manny as a favourite.

Floyd isn't the KO artist: that was supposed to be Manny. When this fight was proposed years ago when both were in their respective primes, the people who backed Manny to win didn't back him on the notion that he would outfox Floyd, be smarter than him and win a decision. The idea was that Manny would lay hands on him and get him out of there like he had done to so many others. Well, it's been 6 years without a KO and if he couldn't get it done against guys like Chris Algeri and Brandon Rios, it stands to reason he's going to have a tough time doing it to Floyd Mayweather.

Suggesting someone go at Floyd like a maniac is moronic. Anybody who knows boxing knows that Maidana fought a great technical fight against Mayweather, but Mayweather made the adjustments in the second fight. Pac is not Maidana, that's never been his style. Why would he fight a different style in the biggest fight of his life? It makes no sense.