Sergey Kovalev - Jean Pascal this weekend

**Violent Demise** · 03-15-2015 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Horrible stoppage. Stupid call by a horrible stoppage

Ref saved Pascal foo, Kov was about to give him CTE.

I remember Pacquiao was supposedly about to give Marquez CTE. Ended up drooling face first on the mat.

**Kirkland Laing** · 03-15-2015 09:28 AM

Watching the slow motion replays here. Ref got it perfectly right.

**Kirkland Laing** · 03-15-2015 09:32 AM

Does anybody think Haymon will make Kovalev-Stevenson? I suppose Main Events aren't going to have a problem showing it on NBC. But are Haymon and his backers going to outbankroll what HBO would pay to show it?

**beenKOed** · 03-15-2015 10:13 AM

Good stoppage as far as I'm concerned, Pascal is game as anyone, but he was tired and beginning to take a beating!
Great fight that saved the night for HBO.
Liked hearing Hopkins behind the mic, he's not the most articulate guy, but absolutely believable.
HBO, Pascal, Canada, and Hopkins all want to see Kovalev/Pascal rematch. It doesn't appeal that much to me, but how do you guys feel about it?

**TitoFan** · 03-15-2015 10:22 AM

I'd say about 99% saw it as a good stoppage.

**Gandalf** · 03-15-2015 11:20 AM

I'd say closer to 15%. I want to see a man stopped and if he isn't going down then it is because he isn't ready to go down. Pascal was the same as that in the 3rd or 4th and he weathered it like a warrior. You have to give the benefit of the doubt to a man that doesn't know what it means to be stopped. Boxing would be lame if you stopped it every time someone got hurt.

**armin** · 03-15-2015 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Gandalf

I'd say closer to 15%. I want to see a man stopped and if he isn't going down then it is because he isn't ready to go down. Pascal was the same as that in the 3rd or 4th and he weathered it like a warrior. You have to give the benefit of the doubt to a man that doesn't know what it means to be stopped. Boxing would be lame if you stopped it every time someone got hurt.

Sometimes those are exactly the dudes that need a ref willing to stop it cause pascal would probably have to be put in a coma to actually get stopped, like I said I thought it was slightly early but overall ok with the stopagge the way the fight was going...

**beenKOed** · 03-15-2015 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by Gandalf

I'd say closer to 15%. I want to see a man stopped and if he isn't going down then it is because he isn't ready to go down. Pascal was the same as that in the 3rd or 4th and he weathered it like a warrior. You have to give the benefit of the doubt to a man that doesn't know what it means to be stopped. Boxing would be lame if you stopped it every time someone got hurt.

Think about it this way. Pascal didn't go down because the referee stopped it. Kovalev was going to pound him until he was on the canvas and every time he got up Kovalev was going to do it again as long as the referee allowed it.
Pascal gave a great performance, tough, courageous, and smart but he was tired from the beating he'd taken and pretty much defenseless. He was lucky to have that referee. IMO
Sometimes you have to protect a fighter as courageous as Pascal from himself.

**TitoFan** · 03-15-2015 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by Gandalf

I'd say closer to 15%. I want to see a man stopped and if he isn't going down then it is because he isn't ready to go down. Pascal was the same as that in the 3rd or 4th and he weathered it like a warrior. You have to give the benefit of the doubt to a man that doesn't know what it means to be stopped. Boxing would be lame if you stopped it every time someone got hurt.

I just watched the fight again... and I'm sorry but you're wrong. Only you and VD (no surprise there) thought the stoppage was bad. Consider this:

Other refs would've stopped it at the end of the 3rd or the beginning of the 4th.
Pascal's knees were buckled by a jab at the end of the previous round. He never looked recovered.
Just before Kovalev fell, he was strafing Pascal along the ropes, where only the ropes kept Pascal on his feet.
As Pabon turned his attention to Kovalev getting back up and rightfully calling the fall a non-knockdown, Pascal was drunkenly stumbling out of camera view across the ring and toward the other corner. Pretty much done and out on his feet.
Pascal proceeded to take two more thunderous shots from Kovalev before Pabon rightly stepped in.

Perfect stoppage.