What did Joe Frazier have that Rocky Marciano didn't?

[stebs]

Answer: NOTHING.

Afro hair, bigger lips and more than likely a bigger cock

Size doesn't matter that much for most women.

Tell your girl friend to stop lying to ya

[Max Power]

Well I think Joe Louis was among Marciano's best opponents, despite his age.

But how was he any better (as he was when he fought Rocky) than some of the opponents Frazier fought, like Ali for instance?

Charles and that were good quality boxers but again, they were not HW's as we describe them today.

Frazier himself only boxed 17 times against real HW's and lost 4 times (2ce convincingly) and his record was riddled with bums also, but still I think he beat the somewhat better fighters and still I think he could beat MArciano.

Rocky could beat Frazier for all I know, it isn't so far apart really, this is just my tip.

They both boxed in cruiser bum eras- it's not their fault the time they were born in.

[SlimTrae]

Well I think Joe Louis was among Marciano's best opponents, despite his age.

But how was he any better (as he was when he fought Rocky) than some of the opponents Frazier fought, like Ali for instance?

Charles and that were good quality boxers but again, they were not HW's as we describe them today.

Frazier himself only boxed 17 times against real HW's and lost 4 times (2ce convincingly) and his record was riddled with bums also, but still I think he beat the somewhat better fighters and still I think he could beat MArciano.

Rocky could beat Frazier for all I know, it isn't so far apart really, this is just my tip.

They both boxed in cruiser bum eras- it's not their fault the time they were born in.

What is it with you and this constant 'they are not HW's as we describe them today' spiel?

Serious question: Do you do this in other sports that you may engage in? Is Michael Jordon just shitty because he aint in the Lebron Era?
Wilt Chamberlin &Kareem Abdul Jabar may have been tall, but they were tall with 1970's food & technology?

Man, you're a riot. Serious, you are knowledgeable, to that I don't dispute. But your bias shows you're more of a fan of boxers, not a fan of boxing.

[Max Power]

Really Slim, it's simply just a difficult concept for me to compare THIS...

http://worldinsport.com/wp-content/u...iano-louis.jpg

to THIS...

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...1_2049536c.jpg

LET ALONE to THIS...

http://static.boxrec.com/thumb/8/87/...-holmes_88.jpg

For me boxing started seriously with Mike Tyson and has continued ever since. I acknowledge previous eras as forerunners of the sport and in a historical sense, but seriously, if boxing was still that bad, nobody would watch it!

[Bill Paxtom]

An Opponent He Really Hated,

Smokin' Joe really disliked a certain 'clown'.

[Max Power]

An Opponent He Really Hated,

Smokin' Joe really disliked a certain 'clown'.

Hmm, yes I think I can sympathise with Joe on that score.

The world has never had to witness such laricanism in boxing until the advent of Tyson Fury who seems to have finally eclipsed him.

It was great for popularising boxing though, can't take that away from the man.

[Bill Paxtom]

A Boxing Gym in Philadelphia.

[SlimTrae]

Really Slim, it's simply just a difficult concept for me to compare THIS...

http://worldinsport.com/wp-content/u...iano-louis.jpg

to THIS...

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...1_2049536c.jpg

LET ALONE to THIS...

http://static.boxrec.com/thumb/8/87/...-holmes_88.jpg

For me boxing started seriously with Mike Tyson and has continued ever since. I acknowledge previous eras as forerunners of the sport and in a historical sense, but seriously, if boxing was still that bad, nobody would watch it!

When you typed this: it's simply just a difficult concept for me to compare THIS...


Once again, you've exposed your love for boxers over boxing. Rhetorical question: Why must you compare box(ers) in order to appreciate box(ing)?

I love guitar, but I'm not gonna get into the dumb spiel of someone telling me Jimi Hendrix is the best that ever lived.
He never did arpeggios, never did harmonic minor scales, mixolydian to dorian modes. Yet those who do that today, never created. Never figure out that feedback could be controlled. To this day their sounds come from digital sound processors-aka computer generated peddles. Jimi Created a masterpiece with a wah-wah peddle and volume....followers pefected this.



Put that back to boxing. & here is what you have: Wladimir & his era..aint created a damn punch. not a new set of footwork, jack, nanda zilch, douhnut. Bigger muscles, better vitamins dont make the inner being any more daring or warrior-like Intangibles wont come from vitamins or workout equipment anymore than a guitar player with 10 thousand dollars worth of equipment will ever pack the house of a Jimi Hendrix or Carlos Santana who captivate us not with super duper scales, but their soul placed into every note, every string thats bent.

John Sullivan, James Corbett ,Jack Johnson , Sam Langford, Benny Leonard Ray Robinson: them boys gave us the uppercut, overhand, jab, hook. Them boys created footwork..
Aint shit been created since then.

So why would I want to compare a creationist vs a perferctionist?
Simple, unless I am a fan of boxers, not boxing.
I partially take back my comment on your intellect. You're knowledageble, just not wise...yet.

[brocktonblockbust]

Jimi Hendrix was the MAN. Hendrix would KTFO of Wladimir and Vitali in 2 rounds tops. Jimi Hendrix would WAH_WAH the shite out of Golove-butt in 3 rounds and he would REVERB the PISS out of Kovalev.

[Beanflicker]

He would chop him down with the edge of his hand.