REAL Joe Louis quotes on Muhammad Ali

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"It would probably be as boring as a rerun of CSI, because Muhammad would spend the whole fight running like Usain Bolt."

-Joe Louis on a hypothetical Ali matchup.

[Master]

Joe Louis threw perfect punches and was efficient but Ali was all wrong for him.

Older champions very seldom have good things to say about the next generation of fighters.

[El Kabong]

When you were the best and by a wide margin and then you're asked after your career how things would go you're either still competitive and say something to the effect of "I never went into a fight thinking I would lose" or you try to be objective and give credit where credit is due but at the same time not throw dirt on your career.

Mike Tyson gets asked a lot about how current fighters stack up and he handles it as well as anyone else.

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Mike hit the nail on the head there when he said "as much as we hate to admit it, athletes get better over time". More boxing fans need to pay attention to that line. People have gotten so much bigger, stronger, and faster over the years.

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Mike hit the nail on the head there when he said "as much as we hate to admit it, athletes get better over time". More boxing fans need to pay attention to that line. People have gotten so much bigger, stronger, and faster over the years.

True, but he seemed to contradict his very own analogy by saying .."it comes down to who wants it the most. Who is willing to hurt the other guy."

In other words, what if we have a better trained athlete, extremely intelligent superpowerful BUT doesnt have that killer instinct against a guy who doesnt have the great trainintg, conditioning...then what do you have?
Simple Wladimir Klitchsko vs Corey Sanders!

[El Kabong]

Joe Louis threw perfect punches and was efficient but Ali was all wrong for him.

The main thing about Joe Louis was he had a great knack for distance, he was great at knowing just how much room he had to work with. He rarely if ever reached on a punch, over extended, or short armed a punch. His punches were crisp, accurate, and landed solidly and that all goes along with he was damned difficult to beat. Now with Ali's head movement and footwork would Louis find it difficult to land? Well Joe Frazier who was pretty much a 1 armed fighter until later in his career when he was a 1 eyed fighter had little trouble pestering Ali, Frazier was also a bit of a plodder as well. I think an Ali-Louis fight is a LOT closer than people want to believe but then again that's the way most hypothetical matchups would be vs Ali. People think Ali was super human....he wasn't, he was just another boxer albeit a great one, but he had exploitable flaws just like anyone else.

An old Joe Louis beat up on Joe Walcott who was a very solid defensive fighter, very tricky, very cagey...he knocked Walcott out in their rematch. A Prime Joe Louis is as perfect of a boxer as you could dream up, big power in both hands, poured on the pressure, very good hand speed, big for his era, just a supremely talented boxer.

[Master]

Joe Louis threw perfect punches and was efficient but Ali was all wrong for him.

The main thing about Joe Louis was he had a great knack for distance, he was great at knowing just how much room he had to work with. He rarely if ever reached on a punch, over extended, or short armed a punch. His punches were crisp, accurate, and landed solidly and that all goes along with he was damned difficult to beat. Now with Ali's head movement and footwork would Louis find it difficult to land? Well Joe Frazier who was pretty much a 1 armed fighter until later in his career when he was a 1 eyed fighter had little trouble pestering Ali, Frazier was also a bit of a plodder as well. I think an Ali-Louis fight is a LOT closer than people want to believe but then again that's the way most hypothetical matchups would be vs Ali. People think Ali was super human....he wasn't, he was just another boxer albeit a great one, but he had exploitable flaws just like anyone else.

An old Joe Louis beat up on Joe Walcott who was a very solid defensive fighter, very tricky, very cagey...he knocked Walcott out in their rematch. A Prime Joe Louis is as perfect of a boxer as you could dream up, big power in both hands, poured on the pressure, very good hand speed, big for his era, just a supremely talented boxer.

I agree and great post but Joe was vulnerable to Conn and Walcott really beat Joe when they fought. Although Joe was old and ready to retire by then.

[Bill Paxtom]

Joe Louis

I can see Clay giving me some trouble for a few Rounds, maybe 5 or 6. He is very fast
and has some tricky moves.

But he pulls back with his hands down, and leaves his mid-section wide open. I would
really enjoy hitting that bread-basket.

If we had fought, I can guarantee you that Clay wouldn't have enjoyed a solid meal for
at least a month.

[SlimTrae]

Joe Louis threw perfect punches and was efficient but Ali was all wrong for him.

The main thing about Joe Louis was he had a great knack for distance, he was great at knowing just how much room he had to work with. He rarely if ever reached on a punch, over extended, or short armed a punch. His punches were crisp, accurate, and landed solidly and that all goes along with he was damned difficult to beat. Now with Ali's head movement and footwork would Louis find it difficult to land? Well Joe Frazier who was pretty much a 1 armed fighter until later in his career when he was a 1 eyed fighter had little trouble pestering Ali, Frazier was also a bit of a plodder as well. I think an Ali-Louis fight is a LOT closer than people want to believe but then again that's the way most hypothetical matchups would be vs Ali. People think Ali was super human....he wasn't, he was just another boxer albeit a great one, but he had exploitable flaws just like anyone else.

An old Joe Louis beat up on Joe Walcott who was a very solid defensive fighter, very tricky, very cagey...he knocked Walcott out in their rematch. A Prime Joe Louis is as perfect of a boxer as you could dream up, big power in both hands, poured on the pressure, very good hand speed, big for his era, just a supremely talented boxer.

I agree that Joe did so much with timing, accuracy and distance. As you stated he really was a total package.

However I disagree with comparing Joe Frazier's fight with Ali. Frazier was a buzz saw constant moving. IMO Joe Louis is the TOTALL opposite. He as you stated conserved, reserved and threw when needed.

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"It would probably be as boring as a rerun of CSI, because Muhammad would spend the whole fight running like Usain Bolt."

-Joe Louis on a hypothetical Ali matchup.

he also said

~ "I'm a Baptist, and I dont get all that Muslim stuff. I don't like what I've seen of ISIS or Al Quaeda on my iPad, and I'm sick of all these Eastern Bloc boxers dominating the game. I will beat Ali and break Bernard Hopkins' record for being the oldest to win a world title"

I think he was quoted saying this last week

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^He said that on Fallon last year I think