Bad Stoppages.

[Hulk]

Brewer v Echols! Hachet was live off the ropes

Great example and one of my all time favorite fights.

[erics44]

duuno if it has been mentioned but i watched carson jones v brian rose for the first time the other day

that was hurrendous

i was in barbados when it was on originally

[Bill Paxtom]

Larry Holmes vs. Muhammad Ali

The bout should have been stopped way earlier by Angelo Dundee or the
Nevada State Boxing Commission.

Bad Stoppage in Reverse, as Muhammad Ali was done by Round 8.

[SlimTrae]

Calzaghe --The Beanflicker thread lays it out!
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...stoppages.html

[Beanz]

Calzaghe --The Beanflicker thread lays it out!
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...stoppages.html

Lays what out? Someone using conjecture and a clear agenda to make a groundless assertion? Where are all the complaints from Calzaghe's opponents? Ask Woodhall what he thinks? The OP even admits not to having seen Joe pre Lacy, which is about 85/90% of his career.

[brocktonblockbust]

Calzaghe --The Beanflicker thread lays it out!
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...stoppages.html

Lays what out? Someone using conjecture and a clear agenda to make a groundless assertion? Where are all the complaints from Calzaghe's opponents? Ask Woodhall what he thinks? The OP even admits not to having seen Joe pre Lacy, which is about 85/90% of his career.

No question Cal Slappy slapped his way to some early-ass slappages İ mean stoppages bwahaha but 'twas the ref, not he, who done the deed, indeed, he did. Froch,, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Leonard, prime Roy JJ, hell İ'll go out on a limb and say even Kov and GGG wax his slappy backside.

[Beanflicker]

prime Roy JJ

For sure, he doesn't win 3 rounds vs prime Roy Jones. RJJ would have whipped that ass.

I give Calzaghe respect because he beat everyone put in front of him, but at the end of the day he fought in a weak division. If he had fought in the 168 class of a few years back there's no way he would have been the #1 guy. Ward would have beaten him.

[Beanflicker]

Lays what out? Someone using conjecture and a clear agenda to make a groundless assertion? Where are all the complaints from Calzaghe's opponents? Ask Woodhall what he thinks? The OP even admits not to having seen Joe pre Lacy, which is about 85/90% of his career.

I admitted to having not seen MUCH of Joe pre Lacy, not having not seen anything at all of his career pre-Lacy. I don't see how I had a "clear agenda", seeing as how I blatantly said that I thought he was a great boxer and that I never thought for a second that any of those guys would have beaten him.

I simply saw a compilation on Youtube of a collection of what I thought were bad stoppages and posted it to spark discussion on the topic (hence the "?" in the thread title). Don't see how I'm the bad guy there.

[brocktonblockbust]

Lays what out? Someone using conjecture and a clear agenda to make a groundless assertion? Where are all the complaints from Calzaghe's opponents? Ask Woodhall what he thinks? The OP even admits not to having seen Joe pre Lacy, which is about 85/90% of his career.

I admitted to having not seen MUCH of Joe pre Lacy, not having not seen anything at all of his career pre-Lacy. I don't see how I had a "clear agenda", seeing as how I blatantly said that I thought he was a great boxer and that I never thought for a second that any of those guys would have beaten him.

I simply saw a compilation on Youtube of a collection of what I thought were bad stoppages and posted it to spark discussion on the topic (hence the "?" in the thread title). Don't see how I'm the bad guy there.

Oh come now, you know you have a clear agenda bro, he can see it so clearly, he sees all our "agendas".

[Beanz]

Lays what out? Someone using conjecture and a clear agenda to make a groundless assertion? Where are all the complaints from Calzaghe's opponents? Ask Woodhall what he thinks? The OP even admits not to having seen Joe pre Lacy, which is about 85/90% of his career.

I admitted to having not seen MUCH of Joe pre Lacy, not having not seen anything at all of his career pre-Lacy. I don't see how I had a "clear agenda", seeing as how I blatantly said that I thought he was a great boxer and that I never thought for a second that any of those guys would have beaten him.

I simply saw a compilation on Youtube of a collection of what I thought were bad stoppages and posted it to spark discussion on the topic (hence the "?" in the thread title). Don't see how I'm the bad guy there.

I don't think you are the bad guy but that if you go into a hypothetical situation wanting to prove something then you will find evidence to support it. The Video you posted is complied from that perspective and so of course supports your theory if you look at it that way. I get to some degree why a lot of people don't really get Calzaghe but to just drag up the tired Slappy thing is a bit telling.

[SlimTrae]

Calzaghe --The Beanflicker thread lays it out!
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...stoppages.html

Lays what out? Someone using conjecture and a clear agenda to make a groundless assertion? Where are all the complaints from Calzaghe's opponents? Ask Woodhall what he thinks? The OP even admits not to having seen Joe pre Lacy, which is about 85/90% of his career.

You named one fighter? Woodhall? Okay ask Peter Manfredo jr. Not that you know him LOL Youtube his response. Not telling any fibs, but yet another one of my priviliged pilgrimmages to the BHOF, Peter wasn't angry about it, but humorously talked about how bad the stoppage was.
So there : 1-1.

And if fighters not complaining is the apex to determining if a fight was stopped prematurely: Check out docu called Fighting Ali.
Norton didn't complain, and Lyle not only didnt complain I remember his quote.
Lyle: Had it not been for Ali, would I be sitting here talking to you? oh yeah? 'bout what?"

When Frazier lost the rumble in the jungle the post fight he cleary stated "I got no complaints"

Now does that mean he didn't or was just a real trooper in the same way with Joe's oppopnents, not complaining doesnt mean Joe did not have early stoppages-
Not every fighter complains is my point.


But here's my agenda in this clip- Joe is dropped, 2 minutes in this clip, then Byron is dropped, Joe goes on a flurry and sends Byron reeling to the ropes, to which the ref stops. Are U friggin kidding me? Not even a standing 8? Bad stoppage, B.S. stoppage? OK how' bout homecookin' stoppage?

[smashup]

Calzaghe --The Beanflicker thread lays it out!
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...stoppages.html

Lays what out? Someone using conjecture and a clear agenda to make a groundless assertion? Where are all the complaints from Calzaghe's opponents? Ask Woodhall what he thinks? The OP even admits not to having seen Joe pre Lacy, which is about 85/90% of his career.

You named one fighter? Woodhall? Okay ask Peter Manfredo jr. Not that you know him LOL Youtube his response. Not telling any fibs, but yet another one of my priviliged pilgrimmages to the BHOF, Peter wasn't angry about it, but humorously talked about how bad the stoppage was.
So there : 1-1.

And if fighters not complaining is the apex to determining if a fight was stopped prematurely: Check out docu called Fighting Ali.
Norton didn't complain, and Lyle not only didnt complain I remember his quote.
Lyle: Had it not been for Ali, would I be sitting here talking to you? oh yeah? 'bout what?"

When Frazier lost the rumble in the jungle the post fight he cleary stated "I got no complaints"

Now does that mean he didn't or was just a real trooper in the same way with Joe's oppopnents, not complaining doesnt mean Joe did not have early stoppages-
Not every fighter complains is my point.


But here's my agenda in this clip- Joe is dropped, 2 minutes in this clip, then Byron is dropped, Joe goes on a flurry and sends Byron reeling to the ropes, to which the ref stops. Are U friggin kidding me? Not even a standing 8? Bad stoppage, B.S. stoppage? OK how' bout homecookin' stoppage?

Are you fucking blind?

I mean seriously i know this fight inside out and after JC decks him he hits him about 40-50 times and Mitchell throws ONE punch back then nearly goes over like a tree with his legs clearly gone and smashes backwards into the corner of the ring , Calzaghe is waiting in front of him to do more damage but the ref waves it off.

That's what i call a good and sensible stoppage and exactly what the ref is in there to do.

[holmcall]

When a slow starter meets a fast starter, the potential for an early explosion is high, and that was the case here.


When Dokes entered the ring, he threw six red roses to the crowd as was his weird wont. As soon as the bell rang, Dokes stormed after the popular Weaver, a notoriously slow starter. Then, just twenty seconds into the fight, Dokes staggered Weaver with a left hook and then dropped him with a follow-up hook.


Weaver got up quickly and did not appear to be badly hurt. After taking the mandatory eight count, the Adonis-physiqued Mike covered up on the ropes and Dokes went straight for the kill. He got it at the 1:03 mark as referee Joey Curtis stopped the fight awarding the Don King fighter the World title. The stunned and angry crowd began to boo and then chanted “Bullshit! Bullshit!” and “Fix! Fix!” Meanwhile, a brawl broke out in the ring between supporters of the two fighters.


Dokes had demanded the championship belt that Weaver had worn into the ring, and Weaver’s brother swiped at Dokes, causing the mini-mayhem. The brawling camps and the crowd’s growing disgruntlement persuaded ring announcer Chuck Hall that it would be prudent if he did not announce the TKO, and he quickly left the arena.

The fight took place four weeks after the fatal Mancini-Kim bout, and referee Curtis was told by the Nevada State Athletic Commission to beware of a fighter’s health during the match.Curtis had been chosen as the referee the morning of the fight at a meeting of the Nevada State Athletic Commission and said they discussed the Deuk Koo Kim tragedy at the meeting. Kim, a South Korean lightweight, died the previous month after a championship fight with Ray Mancini.


“Kim was all they stressed at that meeting,” he said. “And Kim was always in the back of my head.” A day later, Roy Tennison, executive secretary of the commission, said, “I think the ref overreacted because of all the safety talk.”


The WBA ordered a rematch. This one ended in a controversial draw after which the always quotable Dokes exclaimed, “I’ll fight anybody, as long as it isn’t Weaver. They’ll have to strip my title first.”

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