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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather JR / Manny Pacquiao - NEWS STREAM -

    Roach thinks Manny is the better boxer ?

    "I think Manny is the much better boxer, because he's had someone to teach him along the way. Mayweather, I think, he trains himself," Roach explained.
    Most pundits believe that Mayweather has the advantage in terms of skills, especially when it comes to defense, against Pacquiao.
    But Roach disagrees. He believes that Mayweather never learned how to box because the American "has never had a coach."
    "He grew up in the ring. He grew up with his uncle (Roger Mayweather) and his dad fighting, but he just became a fighter naturally," said Roach. "He is self-made. But the thing is, he's never really had anyone teach him how to really box."
    "So (Mayweather) does set traps, but if you're smart enough, you will see it. And Manny's smart enough to see it," said Roach.
    Roach noted that Mayweather is "very, very good" at setting traps for opponents, where he tries to get them to attack him only to be stalled by his shoulder-roll defense, upon which he fires off counter punches.
    "But he does it over, and over and over again," said Roach. "I know when he does it. I showed it to Manny, how to take that away from him."

    Roach: Manny is a better boxer than Floyd | ABS-CBN News
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather JR / Manny Pacquiao - NEWS STREAM -

    Manny is not a slick technical southpaw by any stretch of the imagination. Floyd is.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather JR / Manny Pacquiao - NEWS STREAM -

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Manny is not a slick technical southpaw by any stretch of the imagination. Floyd is.
    I don't think that is the point Roach is trying to make.

    Floyd does have specific signals for the traps that he sets and so if your dexterous enough, you can take advantage of his moves.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather JR / Manny Pacquiao - NEWS STREAM - Floyd says no to penalty

    Floyd has refused to agree to pay a penalty should he be found to be doping

    "Floyd Mayweather Jr. has refused to agree to anti-doping proposals set out by upcoming opponent Manny Pacquiao, who wants either fighter to be fined $5 million for a failed drugs test as preparations continue for May 2's bout.
    As reported by the Associated Press (h/t ABC News), both boxing icons have agreed to adhere to World Anti-Doping Agency rules. This means random, Olympic-styled blood and urine testing will take place before and after the fight to ensure no misuse of illegal substances.
    However, with the main contract negotiated, Pacquiao's camp have pushed for the aforementioned fine to be imposed if either fighter posts a positive result. Michael Koncz, Pacquiao's adviser, recently indicated Pretty Boy's camp are unwilling to play ball, per Dan Rafael of ESPN.co.uk: "Today we were informed that Mayweather turned down the request."

    Mayweather vs. Pacquiao: Floyd Sparks Row by Declining Doping Penalty Terms | Bleacher Report














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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather JR / Manny Pacquiao - NEWS STREAM -

    Makes sense... Floyd is in charge and is dictating the terms of the fight, not Pacquiao.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather JR / Manny Pacquiao - NEWS STREAM -

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Manny is not a slick technical southpaw by any stretch of the imagination. Floyd is.
    That's funny, read it!

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather JR / Manny Pacquiao - NEWS STREAM -

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Manny is not a slick technical southpaw by any stretch of the imagination.
    That's funny, read it!
    Floyd is a slick boxer and obviously not a southpaw.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather JR / Manny Pacquiao - NEWS STREAM - If Positive- Test = 4yr ban

    If either fighter tests positive it seems there will be more than 5 million dollars to pay. No fight (with all the money that is worth) and a four year ban. Which at their respective ages would surely equal an end to their careers

    "Travis Tygart, the chief executive of the United States Anti-Doping Agency, said a positive test would kill the May 2 fight, where the total purse likely will be more than $200 million. It also would subject the fighter who tested positive to a potentially career-ending ban of four years from competition.
    “If there’s a positive test prior to the fight, the penalty for the fighter who violates it is going to be a lot higher than $5 million,” Tygart said Friday.
    Both fighters signed agreements for the USADA to oversee drug testing for the May 2 fight that will be boxing’s richest ever. Mayweather is expected to make at least $120 million and Pacquiao $80 million for the much anticipated bout"

    Official says penalty for positive test by Mayweather or Pacquiao is severe
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather JR / Manny Pacquiao - NEWS STREAM - Manny has a munch

    Manny has a munch. The Filipino star shares a family feast


    "Manny Pacquiao has been training hard recently, so it’s hardly surprising he replaces the many thousands of calories he burns with a big feast.
    The Filipino star looked relaxed as he took his mind off his upcoming $300million (£200m) mega-fight against Floyd Mayweather Jnr with a family meal.
    It’s a little over six weeks before the duo go head-to-head in Las Vegas and the 36-year-old has again stepped up his training in recent days, this time sparring for the first time with partners Edis Tatli and Kenneth Sims Jnr."

    Manny Pacquiao enjoys a well-earned family feast as Filipino fighter takes his mind off Floyd Mayweather Jnr mega-fight | Daily Mail Online




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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather JR / Manny Pacquiao - NEWS STREAM - If Positive- Test = 4yr ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    If either fighter tests positive it seems there will be more than 5 million dollars to pay. No fight (with all the money that is worth) and a four year ban. Which at their respective ages would surely equal an end to their careers

    "Travis Tygart, the chief executive of the United States Anti-Doping Agency, said a positive test would kill the May 2 fight, where the total purse likely will be more than $200 million. It also would subject the fighter who tested positive to a potentially career-ending ban of four years from competition.
    “If there’s a positive test prior to the fight, the penalty for the fighter who violates it is going to be a lot higher than $5 million,” Tygart said Friday.
    Both fighters signed agreements for the USADA to oversee drug testing for the May 2 fight that will be boxing’s richest ever. Mayweather is expected to make at least $120 million and Pacquiao $80 million for the much anticipated bout"


    Official says penalty for positive test by Mayweather or Pacquiao is severe
    This prohibited list http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uplo...ed-list-en.pdf

    At first glance one would think this poses a problem for Floyd's use of Xylocaine. The list now has a statement that limits the use of any substance, not approved, rather that only those on the list.

    Here is the beginning statement:

    S0. NON-APPROVED SUBSTANCES
    Any pharmacological substance which is not addressed by any of the subsequent sections of the List and with no current approval by any governmental regulatory health authority for human therapeutic use (e.g drugs under pre-clinical or clinical development or discontinued, designer drugs, substances approved only for veterinary use) is prohibited at all times.

    So after reading that, what? Say Floyd uses a pain killer during the fight. A positive test only shows after up after the fight, which leads to the conclusion of no liability for lost income. Does USADA have any the legal authority over the purse? I don't think so. In fact, I think the only thing they can do is recommend based on what the rules say to the governing body. I think only the Boxing commission has the legal authority. I'm guessing if the above scenario actually happened, Only a ban would be enforced and a fine imposed. I doubt any fine would amount to more than $5 million and a civil suit amount to nothing because there is no loss of income, unless shows the outcome of the fight was affected and earnings potential was loss.

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather JR / Manny Pacquiao - NEWS STREAM -

    Pactards making excuses...

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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather JR / Manny Pacquiao - NEWS STREAM - If Positive- Test = 4yr ban

    Quote Originally Posted by fan johnny View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    If either fighter tests positive it seems there will be more than 5 million dollars to pay. No fight (with all the money that is worth) and a four year ban. Which at their respective ages would surely equal an end to their careers

    "Travis Tygart, the chief executive of the United States Anti-Doping Agency, said a positive test would kill the May 2 fight, where the total purse likely will be more than $200 million. It also would subject the fighter who tested positive to a potentially career-ending ban of four years from competition.
    “If there’s a positive test prior to the fight, the penalty for the fighter who violates it is going to be a lot higher than $5 million,” Tygart said Friday.
    Both fighters signed agreements for the USADA to oversee drug testing for the May 2 fight that will be boxing’s richest ever. Mayweather is expected to make at least $120 million and Pacquiao $80 million for the much anticipated bout"


    Official says penalty for positive test by Mayweather or Pacquiao is severe
    This prohibited list http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uplo...ed-list-en.pdf

    At first glance one would think this poses a problem for Floyd's use of Xylocaine. The list now has a statement that limits the use of any substance, not approved, rather that only those on the list.

    Here is the beginning statement:

    S0. NON-APPROVED SUBSTANCES
    Any pharmacological substance which is not addressed by any of the subsequent sections of the List and with no current approval by any governmental regulatory health authority for human therapeutic use (e.g drugs under pre-clinical or clinical development or discontinued, designer drugs, substances approved only for veterinary use) is prohibited at all times.

    So after reading that, what? Say Floyd uses a pain killer during the fight. A positive test only shows after up after the fight, which leads to the conclusion of no liability for lost income. Does USADA have any the legal authority over the purse? I don't think so. In fact, I think the only thing they can do is recommend based on what the rules say to the governing body. I think only the Boxing commission has the legal authority. I'm guessing if the above scenario actually happened, Only a ban would be enforced and a fine imposed. I doubt any fine would amount to more than $5 million and a civil suit amount to nothing because there is no loss of income, unless shows the outcome of the fight was affected and earnings potential was loss.
    Good Catch! How ridiculous would that be? No penalty and just a ban and then the immediate rematch takes place in Macau, where the USADA and The adhering athletic commissions have no authority.
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    Default Re: Floyd Mayweather JR / Manny Pacquiao - NEWS STREAM -

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Roach thinks Manny is the better boxer ?

    "I think Manny is the much better boxer, because he's had someone to teach him along the way. Mayweather, I think, he trains himself," Roach explained.
    Most pundits believe that Mayweather has the advantage in terms of skills, especially when it comes to defense, against Pacquiao.
    But Roach disagrees. He believes that Mayweather never learned how to box because the American "has never had a coach."
    "He grew up in the ring. He grew up with his uncle (Roger Mayweather) and his dad fighting, but he just became a fighter naturally," said Roach. "He is self-made. But the thing is, he's never really had anyone teach him how to really box."
    "So (Mayweather) does set traps, but if you're smart enough, you will see it. And Manny's smart enough to see it," said Roach.
    Roach noted that Mayweather is "very, very good" at setting traps for opponents, where he tries to get them to attack him only to be stalled by his shoulder-roll defense, upon which he fires off counter punches.
    "But he does it over, and over and over again," said Roach. "I know when he does it. I showed it to Manny, how to take that away from him."

    Roach: Manny is a better boxer than Floyd | ABS-CBN News
    HahHahhaaAaa!!!

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