Bad Stoppages.

[SlimTrae]

Calzaghe --The Beanflicker thread lays it out!
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...stoppages.html

Lays what out? Someone using conjecture and a clear agenda to make a groundless assertion? Where are all the complaints from Calzaghe's opponents? Ask Woodhall what he thinks? The OP even admits not to having seen Joe pre Lacy, which is about 85/90% of his career.

You named one fighter? Woodhall? Okay ask Peter Manfredo jr. Not that you know him LOL Youtube his response. Not telling any fibs, but yet another one of my priviliged pilgrimmages to the BHOF, Peter wasn't angry about it, but humorously talked about how bad the stoppage was.
So there : 1-1.

And if fighters not complaining is the apex to determining if a fight was stopped prematurely: Check out docu called Fighting Ali.
Norton didn't complain, and Lyle not only didnt complain I remember his quote.
Lyle: Had it not been for Ali, would I be sitting here talking to you? oh yeah? 'bout what?"

When Frazier lost the rumble in the jungle the post fight he cleary stated "I got no complaints"

Now does that mean he didn't or was just a real trooper in the same way with Joe's oppopnents, not complaining doesnt mean Joe did not have early stoppages-
Not every fighter complains is my point.


But here's my agenda in this clip- Joe is dropped, 2 minutes in this clip, then Byron is dropped, Joe goes on a flurry and sends Byron reeling to the ropes, to which the ref stops. Are U friggin kidding me? Not even a standing 8? Bad stoppage, B.S. stoppage? OK how' bout homecookin' stoppage?

[smashup]

Calzaghe --The Beanflicker thread lays it out!
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...stoppages.html

Lays what out? Someone using conjecture and a clear agenda to make a groundless assertion? Where are all the complaints from Calzaghe's opponents? Ask Woodhall what he thinks? The OP even admits not to having seen Joe pre Lacy, which is about 85/90% of his career.

You named one fighter? Woodhall? Okay ask Peter Manfredo jr. Not that you know him LOL Youtube his response. Not telling any fibs, but yet another one of my priviliged pilgrimmages to the BHOF, Peter wasn't angry about it, but humorously talked about how bad the stoppage was.
So there : 1-1.

And if fighters not complaining is the apex to determining if a fight was stopped prematurely: Check out docu called Fighting Ali.
Norton didn't complain, and Lyle not only didnt complain I remember his quote.
Lyle: Had it not been for Ali, would I be sitting here talking to you? oh yeah? 'bout what?"

When Frazier lost the rumble in the jungle the post fight he cleary stated "I got no complaints"

Now does that mean he didn't or was just a real trooper in the same way with Joe's oppopnents, not complaining doesnt mean Joe did not have early stoppages-
Not every fighter complains is my point.


But here's my agenda in this clip- Joe is dropped, 2 minutes in this clip, then Byron is dropped, Joe goes on a flurry and sends Byron reeling to the ropes, to which the ref stops. Are U friggin kidding me? Not even a standing 8? Bad stoppage, B.S. stoppage? OK how' bout homecookin' stoppage?

Are you fucking blind?

I mean seriously i know this fight inside out and after JC decks him he hits him about 40-50 times and Mitchell throws ONE punch back then nearly goes over like a tree with his legs clearly gone and smashes backwards into the corner of the ring , Calzaghe is waiting in front of him to do more damage but the ref waves it off.

That's what i call a good and sensible stoppage and exactly what the ref is in there to do.

[TitoFan]

Mitchell should've gotten a standing 8.
The fact that he had dropped Calzaghe earlier in the round cannot be ignored.
Corrales-Castillo, anyone?

But whatever. What about this one?





Geez folks.
If pointing out a Calzaghe fight to say it was a bad stoppage constitutes hatin', there sure as hell are a lot of thin skins around here.

[Beanflicker]

Geez folks.
If pointing out a Calzaghe fight to say it was a bad stoppage constitutes hatin', there sure as hell are a lot of thin skins around here.

If someone stands up for the Calzaghe/Manfredo stoppage, then we can exclude their opinion. That was an awful stoppage.

Yeah the Brits get real precious when it comes to Calzaghe. And to be fair nobody is evening criticizing Calzaghe, it's not his fault if the ref jumps in early. And again I'll say all those guys who might have gotten a bad stoppage... Calzaghe whips and probably finishes them anyway. All the refs really did in those cases was save them from a few more rounds of punishment. Manfredo had no chance vs Joe.

[Beanflicker]

On the other end of the coin, a really bad stoppage I always think of was Frenkel/Macarenelli. Enzo was knocked out, managed to get to his feet on instinct but was out on his feet, the ref let him go and Frenkel hit him with a knockout blow that looked like it broke his neck.

[ryanman]

Geez folks.
If pointing out a Calzaghe fight to say it was a bad stoppage constitutes hatin', there sure as hell are a lot of thin skins around here.

If someone stands up for the Calzaghe/Manfredo stoppage, then we can exclude their opinion. That was an awful stoppage.

Yeah the Brits get real precious when it comes to Calzaghe. And to be fair nobody is evening criticizing Calzaghe, it's not his fault if the ref jumps in early. And again I'll say all those guys who might have gotten a bad stoppage... Calzaghe whips and probably finishes them anyway. All the refs really did in those cases was save them from a few more rounds of punishment. Manfredo had no chance vs Joe.

I was there at the Manfredo fight and it was a horrible stoppage for sure.

The thing is though people see that and assume that was what it was like in his earlier career but it wasn't the case at all.

[SlimTrae]

Geez folks.
If pointing out a Calzaghe fight to say it was a bad stoppage constitutes hatin', there sure as hell are a lot of thin skins around here.

If someone stands up for the Calzaghe/Manfredo stoppage, then we can exclude their opinion. That was an awful stoppage.

Yeah the Brits get real precious when it comes to Calzaghe. And to be fair nobody is evening criticizing Calzaghe, it's not his fault if the ref jumps in early. And again I'll say all those guys who might have gotten a bad stoppage... Calzaghe whips and probably finishes them anyway. All the refs really did in those cases was save them from a few more rounds of punishment. Manfredo had no chance vs Joe.

I was there at the Manfredo fight and it was a horrible stoppage for sure.

The thing is though people see that and assume that was what it was like in his earlier career but it wasn't the case at all.

Man I bet. You probably was just sitting down, ready to watch some good stuff, then outta nowhere fight is over.

[holmcall]

Canelo over Gomez! WTF

[SlimTrae]

Calzaghe --The Beanflicker thread lays it out!
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...stoppages.html

Lays what out? Someone using conjecture and a clear agenda to make a groundless assertion? Where are all the complaints from Calzaghe's opponents? Ask Woodhall what he thinks? The OP even admits not to having seen Joe pre Lacy, which is about 85/90% of his career.

But here's my agenda in this clip- Joe is dropped, 2 minutes in this clip, then Byron is dropped, Joe goes on a flurry and sends Byron reeling to the ropes, to which the ref stops. Are U friggin kidding me? Not even a standing 8? Bad stoppage, B.S. stoppage? OK how' bout homecookin' stoppage?

Are you fucking blind?
Joe goes on a flurry and sends Byron reeling to the ropes

I mean seriously i know this fight inside out and after JC decks him
I like how you start off with the 2nd knockdown and not the 1st one- Mitchell's knockdown, why? no need??

he hits him about 40-50 times and Mitchell throws ONE punch back then nearly goes over like a tree with his legs clearly gone and smashes backwards into the corner of the ring
Like a tree? Well trees either go over or they don't. Mitchell didn't. But let me try your spin For the 1st knockdown check this out bro.
1:20 in notice how Joe hugs him like a prom queen hugs her king .
1:22 in notice how Mitchell lands such thudding, thunderific, big cycloptic-fuckin balls o'mongus body shots! And see how Joe dropped to the canvas like a hoe will drop her panties to a $50 dollar bill.
That right hand sent Calzaghe the other way of the ref, But...no need to stop, give Cal a chance right?
1:41 the fights picks up..

, Calzaghe is waiting in front of him to do more damage but the ref waves it off.
Yeah, what I typed as well. but let me add this:
1:40-1:50 am I so blind I cant see they are both trading?
1:52 Byron is down
Joe's next punch is at 2:07 now here is the MOST IMPORTANT THING MY BLIND ASS couldn't see
2:27 RIGHT THERE...LOOK AT IT...Joe looks at the ref. Why? Don't think he's egging the ref to stop it? Out of the 20 or so thrown, I guess I'm too blind to see he didn't land them all.

That's what i call a good and sensible stoppage and exactly what the ref is in there to do.

2:32 in Byron throws 2 lazy shots that don't hit the target- BUT he throws.
2:40 in Interesting that if you look at the moment of the stoppage- the ref AINT EVEN LOOKING AT Byron. His eyes are on the canvas shaking his head every way but in the face of Byron.
So from 1:52 in 2nd round when Byron goes down- up till 2:07 when Joe throws the next punch.
Again:
From 2:07 till 2:40 in the same round Joe was down..
It was just too much.

33seconds worth of an ass-erific, hellatious calslapified of a beatdown, that I was too fucking blind to see. No need to let him fall, no need for a standing 8.


I will have to watch some of your posts more closely as it relates to fights refereed by Steve Smoger and Frank Cappacino. There were fights they allowed fighters every chance to redeem and when they stopped fights it was always because they 1. stopped 2. looked into the eyes of the fighter they choose to waive off if @ that time they hadn't hit the canvas.

[powerpuncher]

Calzaghe --The Beanflicker thread lays it out!
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...stoppages.html

Lays what out? Someone using conjecture and a clear agenda to make a groundless assertion? Where are all the complaints from Calzaghe's opponents? Ask Woodhall what he thinks? The OP even admits not to having seen Joe pre Lacy, which is about 85/90% of his career.

You named one fighter? Woodhall? Okay ask Peter Manfredo jr. Not that you know him LOL Youtube his response. Not telling any fibs, but yet another one of my priviliged pilgrimmages to the BHOF, Peter wasn't angry about it, but humorously talked about how bad the stoppage was.
So there : 1-1.

And if fighters not complaining is the apex to determining if a fight was stopped prematurely: Check out docu called Fighting Ali.
Norton didn't complain, and Lyle not only didnt complain I remember his quote.
Lyle: Had it not been for Ali, would I be sitting here talking to you? oh yeah? 'bout what?"

When Frazier lost the rumble in the jungle the post fight he cleary stated "I got no complaints"

Now does that mean he didn't or was just a real trooper in the same way with Joe's oppopnents, not complaining doesnt mean Joe did not have early stoppages-
Not every fighter complains is my point.


But here's my agenda in this clip- Joe is dropped, 2 minutes in this clip, then Byron is dropped, Joe goes on a flurry and sends Byron reeling to the ropes, to which the ref stops. Are U friggin kidding me? Not even a standing 8? Bad stoppage, B.S. stoppage? OK how' bout homecookin' stoppage?

Are you fucking blind?

I mean seriously i know this fight inside out and after JC decks him he hits him about 40-50 times and Mitchell throws ONE punch back then nearly goes over like a tree with his legs clearly gone and smashes backwards into the corner of the ring , Calzaghe is waiting in front of him to do more damage but the ref waves it off.

That's what i call a good and sensible stoppage and exactly what the ref is in there to do.

this was the first calzaghe fight i ever watched and i thought it was a terrible stoppage. byron tripped. thats why he fell backwards into the ropes. he may have gotten hit but he didnt stumble backwards because he was really hurt or anything. calzaghe didnt really land anything big, just some slaps and the ref stops it. byron was definitely in the fight and had calzaghe hurt earlier. the is one of the worst stoppages i have ever seen. if you think it was a good stoppage then you must just be a huge calzaghe fan that was scared he was going to lose if the fight wasnt stopped.