Who was the most self-destructive in their careers?

**TitoFan** · 03-21-2015 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Beanflicker

Roberto Duran and James Toney deserve mentions for eating their way into weight divisions they had no business fighting in, and putting on the occasional shitty performance from being under trained.

While I hate to see the great Roberto Duran in the same sentence as James "Fat Ass" Toney, there is a lot of truth to that. Duran had no business ballooning up from lightweight all the way to super middle by the end of his career. His explosive power at lightweight became merely mortal at the higher weights.

However, I have to make an important distinction between the two. Toney ballooned up into the open-ended division that is heavyweight, the trash bin of all those pudgy, blubbery, out-of-shape clowns that think that just because they hit hard, they can compete as heavyweight boxers. I'll say this: Duran at super middle still looked somewhat as an athlete. Toney looked like a sumo wrestler with boxing gloves.

**Beanflicker** · 03-22-2015 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by TitoFan

While I hate to see the great Roberto Dura in the same sentence as James "Fat Ass" Toney, there is a lot of truth to that. Duran had no business ballooning up from lightweight all the way to super middle by the end of his career. His explosive power at lightweight became merely mortal at the higher weights.

However, I have to make an important distinction between the two. Toney ballooned up into the open-ended division that is heavyweight, the trash bin of all those pudgy, blubbery, out-of-shape clowns that think that just because they hit hard, they can compete as heavyweight boxers. I'll say this: Duran at super middle still looked somewhat as an athlete. Toney looked like a sumo wrestler with boxing gloves.

Give James his due, he fought and whipped a lot of in shape, scary HWs. Destroyed Holyfield and tore up a 260lb Sam Peter back when he was knocking everyone out, and got robbed on the decision. 25 years, almost 100 fights, middleweight to heavyweight, never stopped, never quit. I think you can mention James' name in the same sentence with anyone.