Does anyone in their right mind....

[Ron Swanson]

I don't think you're going to get much argument about RJJ being one of the greats.
Like many fighters, after he lost or really was beaten, he lost his confidence and seemed to be easy pickings for a time, which was a shock and hard to watch.

After Roy came down from HW and had to lose all of that weight he lost two things: Hunger and punch resistance. After being HW it was all said and done. He will be in the history books as not one of the greatest of all times, but for achieving a feat- no matter how relatively miniscule that feat was- that no one else can probably do coming up from being a MW: That is winning the HW Championship of the World.

I think that no one will break that record or accomplishment in my lifetime. Not the way HW's are set now and not the way MW's are so much smaller than they were even ten years ago.

A look at the MW division and you look at overblown Welter's for the most part. Even GGG looks small for a MW. Quillin is probably the only true legitimate MW sized fighter in the division today along with Andy Lee, but everyone else looks small.

You do know Chris Byrd came from MW to win the HW title too right?

[Beanflicker]

I don't think Byrd ever officially fought at MW. His first fight he weighed in at 169 and from there it was up, up, up. Jones spent a few years at MW.

[ykdadamaja]

I don't think Byrd ever officially fought at MW. His first fight he weighed in at 169 and from there it was up, up, up. Jones spent a few years at MW.

... and it was only one fight at Super Middle, then he did two at cruiser, then after that he remained a Heavyweight. Plus, he never won a title at Super Middle or Cruiser. RJJ won MW, Super Middle, LH, and then Heavy. The only title in that span that Jones did not take was the Cruiser... and he fights at Cruiser now and I think he wants that title.