Floyd camp's PED propaganda!

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I always thought it was unfair the way Floyd and his camp used the PED propaganda bullshit on Manny. It was utter and complete BS.

I would have sued Floyd. Truly.

He reckons that because Manny moved up in weight so spectacularly and UPPED his power to boot that Manny had to be using PED's. They all take supplements, but no way do I think Manny over-did the PED's.

Has anyone seen footage of Manny when he was a bantam back in the Philippines? He was too strong at that weight in any event, and evidence showed that he had Welterweight power at Bantamweight. It wasn't fair for him to stay at that weight and pummel guys into submission.

Also, it wasn't as if Manny was the ONLY fighter to carry his power up in weight.

Sugar Ray Leonard took his power well into the LH's from lightweight.... Roy Jones took his power- a little bit of it- right into the LH's and peaked... Hearns took his power well into the Cruiserweight from light welterweight... Artuto Gatti started out at featherweight and took power to at least the light welters...

So, Floyd's camp was fulla caca!

Nice try with the inductive reasoning attempt but it won’t work my young friend. It won’t work because it’s filled with apples and oranges. Tommy Hearns did not carry his bone crusher power with him beyond 154. When he walked into the Kronk Gym he sported an amateur record of 166 fights with 155 with 11 ko's.

Manny taught him how to punch and sit down on his shots whereas the amateur system took advantage of his freak stature by pointing fights out because of the ridiculous scoring criteria.
His power peaked at 154 even though he could obviously still bang but he did grow out of his advantage in that regard.

Leonard had his power shut off at 154 so I'm a little perplexed with these comparisons. Roy Jones was a freak of nature and with him it was his speed and timing of his punches as much as it was about power. Gatti only fought in the 126 area in a few early fights and when he fought at 130 it was his size compared to the rest of the field the night of the fight. This helped him through 135 with those who would trade. By the time he got beat by Robinson back to back he was outgrowing 135. Even at 140 it was evident that he was a welter. Remember scale gate with poor Joey Gomache?


Pac is different then all of these guys. What he took with him as he moved up has not been seen in the history of the sport. His power increased exponentially and so did his speed, footwork and the whole enchilada. He didn't just beat the cream of the crop moving up, he destroyed them. Now maybe it was all legit after all he was never caught but they didn't test and let’s all not forget that Uinsane Bolt has never been caught and he's tested all the time. The speed of designer drugs is simply ahead of the curve and imo Manny found one that worked wonders. Like they are designed to do. Anybody who didn’t think questions would be asked and accusations leveled along the way had/has a bad case of ostrich syndrome.

And that leads to my final point. This whole PED thing is a red herring. Somebody provide me a list of those that would not test hot with relevant testing? Everybody thinks everybody is juicing so why is it even a topic? Furthermore, because of these antiquated testing requirements that in fact enable these cheaters to cheat is there even an opening for accusations? If anything this shit is systemic and if ever unmasked probably the norm.

Well said, I never thought Manny was a Ped user but it's said around here a lot. If it's just accusations I usually disregard such things. If it is so, the truth usually has a way of getting out. Someone writes a tell all book or someone finds a paper trail.

This fight doesn't even need the usual bs from each camp, it sells itself.

Side note, I read Floyd used a 4,000 dollar gold pen to sign his contract, needed to use white gloves to hold it. I was kind of surprised it was only four grand, I've seen more expensive pens out there, maybe Floyd's broke.