Andreas Lubitz - how evil does it get?

[Beanflicker]

It's so crazy to think, it's one thing for a 28 year old to want to die, but to murder 150 people in the process? What a crazy world

[brocktonblockbust]

It's so crazy to think, it's one thing for a 28 year old to want to die, but to murderss 150 people in the process? What a crazy world

Maybe there's a whole 'nother thing that happened. Maybe he had some kind of seizure and tried to get up and his hand accidentally hit the door lock button. Then he fell onto the controls.... ?? I don't know but if unconscious that'd explain his FUCKING BIZZARRE NORMAL CALM BREATHING. shit even the 9-11 hijackers were hyperventilating with fear.

[Gandalf]

I've been trying to avoid the mainstream news as it is a bit toxic, but have heard that the crash was perhaps intentional. Is so, then it is beyond wicked. If you are that pissed off, then put a bullet in your head and be done with it. How dare you take so many innocent people down with you? Not just those people, but the thousands who will carry the trauma through the rest of their lives. It's too much.

[Spicoli]

Another kind of sick bastard. But what gets me is how does a Captain not have any literal override to subordinate. How long were these two flying together?

Is there ever need for ground based manual override to doors etc. I mean shit, we can track phones in seconds

[p4pking]

How can people honestly throw out terms like suicide or mental illness on this, for fucks sake. He killed 150 random people. He didn't jump off a bridge because he thought he'd hurt his family more being alive, this is someone that murdered 150 complete strangers. I'm not a PC person, but if he were an Arab or Muslim person, it would without question be called terrorism, but now people are going to talk about his feelings or something? Jesus christ.

[p4pking]

@Spicoli, apparently on this model of airbus there was an override code, but it didn't work if entrance to the cockpit had been manually denied by the pilot. Ironically in this case, to prevent a hijacking of course.

[brocktonblockbust]

How can people honestly throw out terms like suicide or mental illness on this, for fucks sake. He killed 150 random people. He didn't jump off a bridge because he thought he'd hurt his family more being alive, this is someone that murdered 150 complete strangers. I'm not a PC person, but if he were an Arab or Muslim person, it would without question be called terrorism, but now people are going to talk about his feelings or something? Jesus christ.

1000% agree. Fuck his feelings. Fuck him. A heinous act which lowers his ass in the History of the Universe to the lowest level possible. An unenviable place he will occupy now for all of eternity. He cannot take it back. It is HELL. maybe if not in the traditional sense but in some quantum physics sense. HE OCCUPIES HELL. HE CHOSE IT OF HIS OWN FREE WILL.

unless as I said farther up this thread that some very improbable and freakish event took place in the cockpit when he was alone for example if it is really possible to be possessed by an evil spirit then it is not his fault or if he had a seizure and his hand hit the door lock button by accident and he fell onto the controls which sent the plane into its dive.if that highly unlikely event took place then please forgive me for accusing this guy of being relegated to some kind of hell for all of eternity.

[AdamGB]

How can people honestly throw out terms like suicide or mental illness on this, for fucks sake. He killed 150 random people. He didn't jump off a bridge because he thought he'd hurt his family more being alive, this is someone that murdered 150 complete strangers. I'm not a PC person, but if he were an Arab or Muslim person, it would without question be called terrorism, but now people are going to talk about his feelings or something? Jesus christ.

He'll be called a terrorist if there is any evidence of a political or ideological motive...
Nobody cares about his feelings, they just want answers, so spare the rhetoric until we get some.

[Gandalf]

P4P is correct in his analysis though. Change the name and skin colour and it would be immediate terrorism. Like when Putin shot down that plane with his air rifle and when France was infiltrated by those devilish Muslim sorts. It's terrorism whenever it fits our agenda and isn't when we decide it doesn't. Terrorism is just a fancy name for those we don't like killing people. Personally, I think the killing of 150 people regardless of who did it an act of terrorism.

[p4pking]

How can people honestly throw out terms like suicide or mental illness on this, for fucks sake. He killed 150 random people. He didn't jump off a bridge because he thought he'd hurt his family more being alive, this is someone that murdered 150 complete strangers. I'm not a PC person, but if he were an Arab or Muslim person, it would without question be called terrorism, but now people are going to talk about his feelings or something? Jesus christ.

He'll be called a terrorist if there is any evidence of a political or ideological motive...
Nobody cares about his feelings, they just want answers, so spare the rhetoric until we get some.

Taking down a commercial flight fits my definition of it under any circumstance, as Miles said the term just gets thrown around when it fits. A large attack on random people in public is what it is, you are dealing with a terrorist and a mental inherently imo. Barring brocks extremely unlikely freak accident theory, this guy knew what he was doing and that's what matters.