Punch Stat numbers: a load of rubbish?

[Beanflicker]

It's a useless tool of confusion. I think they are inaccurate a lot of the time anyway, and people use them to justify decision, when the purpose in pro boxing isn't to land the most punches in a fight, it's to win the most rounds. And it doesn't take into account the significance of the blows landed. Fighter A can land 10 jabs to the head and body, and Fighter B can land 1 right hook that really rocks Fighter A. Who's going to say A won the round? It's fookin nonsense!

[p4pking]

Agreed with the Bean, they are meaningless. Whether a punch lands by compubox standards as opposed to having impact can be a world apart. A guy can flail away at the arms and land twice as many "power shots(since they are anything but a jab)" as the guy who is seeing and catching everything and raking him with flush counters for it.

[ykdadamaja]

It's a useless tool of confusion. I think they are inaccurate a lot of the time anyway, and people use them to justify decision, when the purpose in pro boxing isn't to land the most punches in a fight, it's to win the most rounds. And it doesn't take into account the significance of the blows landed. Fighter A can land 10 jabs to the head and body, and Fighter B can land 1 right hook that really rocks Fighter A. Who's going to say A won the round? It's fookin nonsense!

Funny thing is judges don't go by punchstats or compubox numbers. Judging a boxing match depends on the beholder. lol....

ps: I think we give way too much credit to knockdowns in a round than guys that win fights. A knockdown punch may be the only punch landed, but what if the guy won the entire 2:50 minutes of the round?

[brocktonblockbust]

there should be objective criteria and I think that is there but not enforced strictly. You have:

1. Number of punches
2. Aggressiveness
3. Connected punches
4. Power punches
5. Effective punches
6. Clean punches
7. Knockdowns
8. Jabs
a. strong jabs that approach a Power Punch strength
b. standard jabs
c. weak/flicking jabs that just pitter-patter

now take all that and maximize the equation;

f(x)=(total punches + .2a) x (power punches + .2b)/(clean punches - .2c) + (effective punches x 2) - (1/2 missed punches) + ring generalship = WINNER OF THE ROUND.

[boyla]

I have never paid them much notice.

[Spicoli]

Yeh pretty much a dull hammer used by networks to try to make a distinction. Window dressing. Almost like counting a pitchers total throws to home plate but with far less accuracy in category. What kills me is when they trump power punches. Ever see a guy knocked shitless by a jab Yep. Just call the action. We don't need a math class. Once HBo started using the 'Resusci annie' punch dummy graphic and counting shots to ribs, chest, chin, arm, eyebrows, etc it just got goofy.

[ykdadamaja]

Yeh pretty much a dull hammer used by networks to try to make a distinction. Window dressing. Almost like counting a pitchers total throws to home plate but with far less accuracy in category. What kills me is when they trump power punches. Ever see a guy knocked shitless by a jab Yep. Just call the action. We don't need a math class. Once HBo started using the 'Resusci annie' punch dummy graphic and counting shots to ribs, chest, chin, arm, eyebrows, etc it just got goofy.

Well, some fight fans, like myself, like to see it. I think it's cool. But the judges don't pay attention to it or count it.

What is also striking is that some of the "power punches" are not true power punches, they are pitty-pay set up shots that some jabs are more effective and harder. But, they count as power shots to the persons tabulating the punchstats.

[brocktonblockbust]

fighter A lands 7 jabs in a row and fighter B laughs and sneers at him and yells "was that a mosquito?"

fighter A then throws a hard right that is 90% blocked but 10% just gets in to B's ear

that's 8 punches to zero punches right there.

fighter B then throws and uppercut that buckles the knees of fighter A, who holds on for dear life.

the bell rings:

WHO WON THE ROUND? (assuming that is all the action)

come on biotches---WHO WON THAT ROUND)