Punch Stat numbers: a load of rubbish?

[Beanflicker]

Interesting perspective. Just curious; any examples where you felt a guy who didnt land the most won?

I'd have to really think about it, I know Toney/Peter 1 is one for sure. I know Sweet Pea out landed De La Hoya but I felt DLH deserved the decision, albeit a very narrow decision.

I get that there is a strong, strong correlation between landing the most punches overall and winning the fight, but as they say correlation does not imply causation. We know for certain that it does not in this case, because a fight isn't scored as a whole, it's scored by rounds. Even looking at who lands the most punches per round skews it because it doesn't take into account the effectiveness of each punch.

[Beanflicker]

This is from CompuBox's website.

"The CompuBox stats in no way, shape or form, determine a winner of a fight. The stats are used to enhance a telecast, show the estimated barometer of activity by both fighters and paint a picture of the activity on a round-by-round basis. Even though our database of over 5,000 fights (and counting) shows that a fighter that throws and lands more punches will win 90% of the time, the 10 point judging system clearly is the only way to determine winners in a fight."

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This is from Jose Sulaiman's website:

"Los Compu-Box numeros determinan seguramente quien va a ganar la pelea, en todo los casos."

Sulaiman had been accused of corruption numerous times. For example, many in the boxing community had accused the WBC of bending its rules to suit promoter Don King. The late journalist Jack Newfield wrote that Sulaiman "became more King's junior partner than his independent regulator." [8] Another journalist, Peter Heller, echoed that comment, writing, "Sulaiman...became little more than an errand boy for Don King." Heller quoted British promoter Mickey Duff as saying, "My complaint is that José Sulaimán is not happy his friend Don King is the biggest promoter in boxing. Sulaiman will only be happy when Don King is the only promoter in boxing." [9]

After Pernell Whitaker lost a controversial decision to Jose Luis Ramirez in 1988, Whitaker's trainer, Lou Duva, called Sulaiman "a thief" and Whitaker's manager, Shelly Finkel, said, "King and Sulaiman fixed the fight, no question about it." [10][11]