Maidana ruined Mayweather

[Manos de Piedra]

I think arguing over who has fought the better opposition is kind of pointless, as I believe both guys can beat each others opposition (apart from Canelo, I don't think pac beats him but that's a whole different topic) and that is what makes his fight so intriguing. The two best fighters of this era, who can hypothetically beat everyone and the only test is the other guy. So instead of arguing and throwing insults we should have civilised debates and appreciate these two guys because a fight like this wont come around for a long time.

Agree with everything on here except the Canelo part. IMO, Pacquiao beats Canelo even worse than Floyd did. All Floyd did was humiliate Canelo and make him whiff more times than a 90-year old grandmother swinging at 95-mph fastballs. But there was relatively little punishment coming back the other way. Pac would not only further humiliate Canelo with his speed, but he'd inflict damage. Think Martinez-JCC Jr. on a slightly smaller scale.

Good point. I can see that happening but pacquiao is so easy to hit with right hands and that makes me think that a guy of Canelo's size would be able to KO pac if he landed. Bradley was able to hurt Pac with a right hand, Marquez nearly decapitated him, and Canelo is bigger and hits harder than both so I don't see it being a comfortable night if that fight had happened.

[TitoFan]

I think arguing over who has fought the better opposition is kind of pointless, as I believe both guys can beat each others opposition (apart from Canelo, I don't think pac beats him but that's a whole different topic) and that is what makes his fight so intriguing. The two best fighters of this era, who can hypothetically beat everyone and the only test is the other guy. So instead of arguing and throwing insults we should have civilised debates and appreciate these two guys because a fight like this wont come around for a long time.

Agree with everything on here except the Canelo part. IMO, Pacquiao beats Canelo even worse than Floyd did. All Floyd did was humiliate Canelo and make him whiff more times than a 90-year old grandmother swinging at 95-mph fastballs. But there was relatively little punishment coming back the other way. Pac would not only further humiliate Canelo with his speed, but he'd inflict damage. Think Martinez-JCC Jr. on a slightly smaller scale.

Good point. I can see that happening but pacquiao is so easy to hit with right hands and that makes me think that a guy of Canelo's size would be able to KO pac if he landed. Bradley was able to hurt Pac with a right hand, Marquez nearly decapitated him, and Canelo is bigger and hits harder than both so I don't see it being a comfortable night if that fight had happened.

There's always the possibility Canelo could hurt Pac if he catches him clean. But let's consider a few factors. Beginning with Pac himself. I have to believe Pac would alter his style against a big, hard puncher such as Canelo. He's not going to go hell-bent on Canelo like he did against Marquez, which in turn led to his KO loss, JMM catching Pac coming in perfectly. In the past, when Pac has been in with a big puncher, he uses his boxing skills a bit more and is less reckless in his attacks. Not comparing Canelo to either Margarito or Rios.... but look at how Pac boxed and avoided getting hit against these two. Margacheato may be slow as molasses... but Rios is a busy, pressure-type fighter. Pac managed to avoid Rios's rushes with hand and foot speed.... and proceeded to give him a boxing lesson. Which leads me to point # 2. Canelo is notorious for his slow workrate. He normally sits back, waiting for the action to develop in front of him. He's not a swarmer. This also would work in Pac's favor. Pac would use his (vastly) superior speed and boxing skills to pot shot Canelo all night long.

Boxing's very unpredictable, so basically anything's possible on any given night. But IMO Canelo got exposed by Mayweather.... and fighting another elite fighter would only serve to add an exclamation point to that sentence.

[Fenster]

Marquez is a D level fighter to Floyd but A level to Manny - makes perfect sense.

Cotto/Oscar are A- level fighters to Floyd but D- level to Manny.

Castillo is a D level fighter to Hatton but A level to Floyd.

Maidana is a B- level fighter to Floyd but F level to Alexander.

[brocktonblockbust]

If A is greater than C, but B beats D, how can E or F ever answer the bell for Round 1?

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if a is greater than c, but b beats d, how can e or f ever answer the bell for round 1?

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Marquez is a D level fighter to Floyd but A level to Manny - makes perfect sense.

Cotto/Oscar are A- level fighters to Floyd but D- level to Manny.

Castillo is a D level fighter to Hatton but A level to Floyd.

Maidana is a B- level fighter to Floyd but F level to Alexander.

Exactly.

And Floyd is A* level to everyone.

Garcia, Ward, Kovalev and GGG are A level fighters.

All undefeated fighters have to be given that little bit extra because that L is not part of their make up in the Pro game.

Alexander beat maidana better than mayweather but theres the arguement that people will use yet again at what stage was the fighter at in his/her career with trainers etc to suit their excuse!