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    Default Re: How can you privatise every service and yet not privatise a monarchy?

    If they do like U.S.A : taxpayers would have to pay for any empty beds should crime rates fall below that quota.


    Private Corporations world wide- are following the American trend which is: striking deals with states that contain clauses guaranteeing high prison occupancy rates.

    Check out/google The report, “Criminal: How Lockup Quotas and ‘Low-Crime Taxes’ Guarantee Profits for Private Prison Corporations,”


    It documents the contracts of private prison companies who hold state governments to guarantee prison occupancy rates (AKA a fucking quota) to be met or..

    or force taxpayers to pay for empty beds if the prison population decreases

    If they go like America- whom had 48 state governors in 2012 whom utilizes Corrections Corporation of America (CCA), Thisone company buys up & operate public state prisons. for like 10-20 year contract.
    Those who don't play ball there way? Then they send something called lobbyist to washington to (lobby) for it. Or they will fund politicians outright who then turn around & claim government is to fucked up to run a prison. So let a private company do it.

    Last- I am not sure if CCA is the old Wackenhut. Wackenhut got tired of being questioned about how they got rich off of people going to jail-so they changed their name.

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    Whats the old saying? Crime pays or Crime doesnt pay? Crime pays prison builders...well. Very Well.

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    Default Re: How can you privatise every service and yet not privatise a monarchy?

    Prisons are privatised here and they have poor conditions and a lot of drug problems.
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    Default Re: How can you privatise every service and yet not privatise a monarchy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Prisons are privatised here and they have poor conditions and a lot of drug problems.
    Different nation, same doo-doo.

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    Default Re: How can you privatise every service and yet not privatise a monarchy?

    We privatized energy and what happened , my gas bill used to be about £120 a quarter to £360 a
    quarter , same with electric bill.
    Remember if profit comes into delivering ANY PUBLIC service, corners are cut in the name of profit
    large wage bills for CEO, the public are ripped off.

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    Default Re: How can you privatise every service and yet not privatise a monarchy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    We privatized energy and what happened , my gas bill used to be about £120 a quarter to £360 a
    quarter , same with electric bill.
    Remember if profit comes into delivering ANY PUBLIC service, corners are cut in the name of profit
    large wage bills for CEO, the public are ripped off.
    I take your point, Dia, especially regarding huge profits and overpaid executives ....... But nationalised services are usually pretty crap, run by pen pushers and auditors, with staff who don't have to work hard because the unions are too strong and there is little in the way of performance management culture (I admit that these are huge generalisations too)

    Governments are crap at actually running things, and local authorities are even worse. Your energy bill may have gone up, but that doesn't mean that it's more expensive, the nationalised companies were just gobbling up public money below the radar.

    Just to b controversial, our NHS service is not generally good when you consider what it costs, and in the long term is genuinely unsustainable.
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    X I agree that we should not have a state monopoly but we get back these public services sold off and bring them into organisations that are non-profit making and have ethics. This is similar to housing associations which were set up and compete for business. They bid for the work and winning on cost and quality of service.Any surplus made is reinvested back into the organisation.

    It is the best way forward.

    Regarding NHS, it is a victim of its own success. People are living longer because it provides a good service and stops people dying. We should be proud of that and not criticise it. I believe the same thing should happen to NHS and open it to voluntary organisations who can provide more cost effective way to provide the services.
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    Its just a Tory myth that the state is useless at providing key services. Our water and energy are as good as can be, cost very little each month and are state run. Furthermore, the monarchy was rid off a long time ago. In order to progress you have to discard a justification for inequality such as monarchy and realise that we all have a basic right to water and energy. In the Uk all these things are about fat cats and shareholders. They deserve no say in essentials. There is no justification for it and you are not getting a better service. Its only by comparing systems that you see the lies peddled via the UK media. No council housing? Just filling in fat cat profits too. It is feudalism.

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    anarchy is the only natural order of things. the desire to accommodate the lowest common denominators has only brought about much strife and inequality

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    Default Re: How can you privatise every service and yet not privatise a monarchy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Prisons are privatised here and they have poor conditions and a lot of drug problems.
    Oh quit being such a bleeding heart liberal

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    Default Re: How can you privatise every service and yet not privatise a monarchy?

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Prisons are privatised here and they have poor conditions and a lot of drug problems.
    Oh quit being such a bleeding heart liberal
    Quit being a right wing moron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Prisons are privatised here and they have poor conditions and a lot of drug problems.
    Oh quit being such a bleeding heart liberal
    Quit being a right wing moron.
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