Im not trying to convince anyone. I researched it and am reporting what I found.
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Im not trying to convince anyone. I researched it and am reporting what I found.
There is more historical documentation including the writings of the first century historian Josephus about Christ, plenty by non believers at the time. The person of Christ in the gospels existed without doubt. There is more evidence of Christ than of Alexander the great. You may question that Christ was God but his existence can not be questioned. Yes, others were around during his time that some thought the messiah but they did not go on to change civilization as we know it. Christ's clashes with the establishment at the time are well documented, not a mix of men, but Christ in specific. @brocktonblockbust
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These immigrants have just arrived basically, they only knew a few words in swedish, and i would say this is an introduce class, like "welcome to Sweden" sorta thing, they never seen this top quality sexual appearance we have in this country, Which chock them because this homo act is forbidden in their countries, and when it's legal somewhere they don't know how to act, but they have been growing up and learnt that its forbidden. so obviously they don't like that, but time will change them... even though some people have a longer learning period than others.
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If one person has an invisible imaginary friend he's psycho, Right?
If lots of people have the same invisible imaginary friend It's called Religion, Right?
So what the conclusion of my point?
Ingemaar Johannsen banged several chicks from Ululea en liten stad norr, en vacker ung flicka
Yeshua ben Pandera and Yeshua Ha Notzri are 2 different people. Both are written about in a negative way in the Jewish Talmud.
I'm only referring to the Christ of the gospels and the historical evidence that proves his existence.
Interestingly, there was a Jewish rabbi who passed away in 1984 who had a large following. Many Jews felt he may be messianic. I just learned of this and am currently reading up on the figure.
it ws 1994 Menachim Scneerson of the Lubavitcher Movement. I saw the train of the funeral cars all the highwas in NJ were shut down for hours, tens of thousands of Jews followed him to the Jewish Cemetery and every June they are still waiting for him to get out of the grave and resurrect.
Edition / Manuscript Passage on execution
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b) Passage on punishment in afterlife
(b Gittin 57a) Passage on disciples
(Sanhedrin 43 a-b)
Herzog 1 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus son of Pandera
Herzog 2 Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Vatican 130 he went and brought up Jesus the Nazarene
Vatican 140 he went and brought up the imposter of Jesus
Munich 95 on the eve of Passover they hanged [name erased] he went and brought up Jesus [text erased]
Firenze II.1.8–9 on Sabbath even and the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus ben Stada Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Karlsruhe 2 on the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus the Nazarene Jesus the Nazarene had five disciples
Barco on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] [not legible] had five disciples
Soncino on the eve of Passover they hanged [not legible] he went and brought up [name missing]
Vilna [whole passage deleted by censor] he went and brought up the sinners of Israel [whole passage deleted by censor]
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I don't get it Brock, are you saying I'm wrong. Do I need to post official Roman accounts of there dealings with Jesus or the writings of Josephus. No matter how you slice it Jesus existed. Are you saying he didn't, I'm just trying to determine where you are coming from, your personal belief.
1st of all Walrus there is no right or wrong, so no I would never say you were wrong.
2nd of all I believe there was more than 1 man named yeshua who went doing charismatic/political/miraculous stuff at that same time.
3rd of all I believe the Jesus of the Gospel is an amalgamation of the 2/3 Yeshuas, the things attributable to the 1 Jesus of the Gospels were really performed by several Yeshuas, and it all morphed into one historical person. I believe the Yeshua of the Gospel existed in duplicate or even triplicate.
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