General Election 2015

[superheavyrhun]

Resorting to the UKIP approach of dealing with people who disagree with you isn't going to help you win the argument.

Well using the actual numbers didn't get through his fucking skull sooooo.....have any suggestions?

Numbers are about as fluid as the policies of political parties. No party is going to use numbers that paint them negatively, and will choose their numbers with care, therefore, while there is often one set of numbers that show one thing, there will be another set of statistics that show the polar opposite. Numbers may not lie, but they can be used to paint very different pictures depending on agenda and political leaning.

[El Kabong]

Resorting to the UKIP approach of dealing with people who disagree with you isn't going to help you win the argument.

Well using the actual numbers didn't get through his fucking skull sooooo.....have any suggestions?

Numbers are about as fluid as the policies of political parties. No party is going to use numbers that paint them negatively, and will choose their numbers with care, therefore, while there is often one set of numbers that show one thing, there will be another set of statistics that show the polar opposite. Numbers may not lie, but they can be used to paint very different pictures depending on agenda and political leaning.

The numbers are not partisan

[superheavyrhun]

Resorting to the UKIP approach of dealing with people who disagree with you isn't going to help you win the argument.

Well using the actual numbers didn't get through his fucking skull sooooo.....have any suggestions?

Numbers are about as fluid as the policies of political parties. No party is going to use numbers that paint them negatively, and will choose their numbers with care, therefore, while there is often one set of numbers that show one thing, there will be another set of statistics that show the polar opposite. Numbers may not lie, but they can be used to paint very different pictures depending on agenda and political leaning.

The numbers are not partisan

The people that quote them are though. And everyone's got a perspective or point of view which they are using numbers to support.

[El Kabong]

Resorting to the UKIP approach of dealing with people who disagree with you isn't going to help you win the argument.

Well using the actual numbers didn't get through his fucking skull sooooo.....have any suggestions?

Numbers are about as fluid as the policies of political parties. No party is going to use numbers that paint them negatively, and will choose their numbers with care, therefore, while there is often one set of numbers that show one thing, there will be another set of statistics that show the polar opposite. Numbers may not lie, but they can be used to paint very different pictures depending on agenda and political leaning.

The numbers are not partisan

The people that quote them are though. And everyone's got a perspective or point of view which they are using numbers to support.

I pointed out what they were .....in order to point out what they were

[ryanman]

Labour moves ahead of Tories on the day the polls turned | Politics | The Guardian

Tentative but noteworthy.

[Gandalf]

I am still expecting a super coalition. Don't forget how Labour and Tory united to stop Scotland being free and now the SNP is suddenly going to dictate things? I am not convinced that is going to be allowed. Notice the good cop/bad cop routine with Labour and Tory too? 'We will reduce student fees to 6000 pounds!'.....Well, let's all have some of that then! 6000 pounds.....a year! What are you paying for exactly? 'We will increase the minimum wage' by how much by 2020?.....Have they seen the cost of a house? 'We will.....'. Oh, I cannot continue. It's all bollocks.

[brocktonblockbust]

I am still expecting a super coalition. Don't forget how Labour and Tory united to stop Scotland being free and now the SNP is suddenly going to dictate things? I am not convinced that is going to be allowed. Notice the good cop/bad cop routine with Labour and Tory too? 'We will reduce student fees to 6000 pounds!'.....Well, let's all have some of that then! 6000 pounds.....a year! What are you paying for exactly? 'We will increase the minimum wage' by how much by 2020?.....Have they seen the cost of a house? 'We will.....'. Oh, I cannot continue. It's all bollocks.

it really is all donkey dick Miles. Its a 3 or 4 headed beast with the same body. Apart from the Greens I guess. 6000 pounds a year bwAAAAAAAHAHAHA. No wonder we had so many UK students in the program in Malaysia. Frikkin got driven out by Tory/Labour charades.

[Gandalf]

I feel really sorry for the young. They didn't do anything to deserve any of what they are inheriting. Be it property prices, the cost of education, zero hours contracts, dentist costs, the City of London, you name it and they are being fleeced and taken to the cleaners. Even council housing is being sold off en mass. I know I always get lectured for ever having a voice on this stuff, but it sucks. The Greens are the only party you could really vote for, but the system is set up. The Establishment really gambled big in robbing Scotland and it worked temporarily, yet they have completely lost Scotland now. Scotland is now the heart of the UK and I feel proud of them. They lost the referendum, but they are are the only sign of an active beating heart beyond all the property speculation and spitting on the vulnerable. Is that a novel on why I hate the poor being written in the background? I also understand why people like Memphis are going to vote UKIP. It's a shame that Labour betrayed not only Scotland, but the UK too. I wouldn't put it past them doing a deal with the Tories to keep Scotland out.

[Memphis]

I was in the process of replying to Ryans post but then got sent this and thought it was hilarious so am posting it instead.

[Gandalf]

That has to be a wind up. Am I missing something?

[Memphis]

No, it's an actual UKIP flyer.

[Gandalf]

Wow. Just wow. What can you say about something like that? It comes across as pure parody. Maybe thats the appeal. Weird.

[Memphis]

I don't see the issue, Local shops for local people. That's fair enough isn't it?


Royston Vasey already has one road, why would they want more?

[Beanz]

Wow. Just wow. What can you say about something like that? It comes across as pure parody. Maybe thats the appeal. Weird.

(:

Typical no tail

[Gandalf]

UKIP are going to do nothing. Its all about the SNP now and I am curious to see how aquit themselves to being a voice for the people.