Who do you WANT to WIN? Manny or Floyd?

[chris6878]

Well, Pac fought Marquez at different weights and P4P they are fair opponents for one another. Marquez was just far too small and unprepared to fight Mayweather who had been at the weight for a long time. Of course it would be bizarre for Mayweather to fight Marquez 4 times.

In terms of common opponents, is it not a fact that mini Manny has also beaten them far more ably and easily than Floyd who has been WW at above for a very long time? Not bad for a tiny little man. Cotto pounded. DLH dusted. Mosley massacred. Hatton hammered. But Marquez is to define this fight? I'm not so sure that is the case.

Manny was finally doing a number on Marquez in the 4th fight and just got sloppy. Manny has also shown more strings to his bow in recent years. Mayweather on the other hand is losing his legs and is getting tagged a lot. He cannot afford to have no legs and get tagged too much against Manny.

I think output and activity will be the difference in this one. Maybe a bit like Calzaghe/Hopkins except Pac can hit harder and Mayweather will perhaps try to spoil even more.

Glad to see someone recognize that pac was mashing marquez up before that "perfect Punch" koed his ass. If not for that punch, Marquez wouldve left that fight looking like a different person, but it is what it is.

LIke Ive said before, floyd is showing his age. Getting hit more, slowing down, and not having any type of punch output.

If manny can come in with a high output, He will either tko floyd late or just win on points.
Floyd cant match the output.

If Manny doesnt and tries to box floyd he will lose

[J_Undisputed]

For the sake of the sport, I want Manny to win. Technically it seems like a long shot but boxing needs it because this trend of fighters believing they are bigger than the sport and trying to change it to suit their liking needs to stop. It sends the wrong message.

Mayweather isn't the only offender of course, but Al haymon uses his example to influence other fighters and validate that being a nitpicking, diva with no regards for the ranking system, the fans, honor, tradition, fair play, and the warriors code is fine as long as you're paychecks getting bigger. That getting rich makes you bigger than life and puts you above people and entitles you to beat women, and berate people who don't recognize you and threaten people. Even the fighters not under the haymon banner are gleaning this arrogance.

I recognize Mayweathers right to spend his money anyway he wants and fight whatever style in the ring regardless of the perceived excitement level of his detractors. I was a fan and still am of his skill and technical prowess, and I do think part of this money Mayweather business is a contrived wwe like persona.. At the same time he's wasting his most valuable resource. His influence on up and coming fighters by turning everything around him into his own private circus where he makes the rules. I only fight this fighter for this money and he can only wear these gloves... So much for competition.

If manny wins, it may not change fighters like khan thinking that the boxing world should wait for him to stop fasting or him only fighting people he thinks are worthy despite his losses, non champion status, etc ; It may not stop a shop worn cotto from holding a belt hostage and fighting the bundrages of the world so he can claim some mythical aside /bside influence; It may not prevent someone like wilder from thinking hes the greatest fighter who ever lived because he beat a pudgy stiverne who fought the wrong fight and then proclaiming hes king of the world because he knows how to throw a one two... It wont keep the danny garcia's from ripping to hapless over matched rod selkas like a monkey on a cupcake to restore their rep and draw.. hell it might not even be able to finally flush away that idiot broner for good....

But it could be a start and a remind of what boxing used to be. A sport of men, for warriors that knew what it was to show courage in defeat, mercy in heat of battle and humility in the grand scheme of life in and out of the ring.... and restore the balance to that of a time where a good old fashioned lights out punch in the face was any fighters reality check and the cure for spoiling, clowning, diva demands, and the "A- Side mentality"... Just my opinion ..

[corvette]

For the sake of the sport, I want Manny to win. Technically it seems like a long shot but boxing needs it because this trend of fighters believing they are bigger than the sport and trying to change it to suit their liking needs to stop. It sends the wrong message.

Mayweather isn't the only offender of course, but Al haymon uses his example to influence other fighters and validate that being a nitpicking, diva with no regards for the ranking system, the fans, honor, tradition, fair play, and the warriors code is fine as long as you're paychecks getting bigger. That getting rich makes you bigger than life and puts you above people and entitles you to beat women, and berate people who don't recognize you and threaten people. Even the fighters not under the haymon banner are gleaning this arrogance.

I recognize Mayweathers right to spend his money anyway he wants and fight whatever style in the ring regardless of the perceived excitement level of his detractors. I was a fan and still am of his skill and technical prowess, and I do think part of this money Mayweather business is a contrived wwe like persona.. At the same time he's wasting his most valuable resource. His influence on up and coming fighters by turning everything around him into his own private circus where he makes the rules. I only fight this fighter for this money and he can only wear these gloves... So much for competition.

If manny wins, it may not change fighters like khan thinking that the boxing world should wait for him to stop fasting or him only fighting people he thinks are worthy despite his losses, non champion status, etc ; It may not stop a shop worn cotto from holding a belt hostage and fighting the bundrages of the world so he can claim some mythical aside /bside influence; It may not prevent someone like wilder from thinking hes the greatest fighter who ever lived because he beat a pudgy stiverne who fought the wrong fight and then proclaiming hes king of the world because he knows how to throw a one two... It wont keep the danny garcia's from ripping to hapless over matched rod selkas like a monkey on a cupcake to restore their rep and draw.. hell it might not even be able to finally flush away that idiot broner for good....

But it could be a start and a remind of what boxing used to be. A sport of men, for warriors that knew what it was to show courage in defeat, mercy in heat of battle and humility in the grand scheme of life in and out of the ring.... and restore the balance to that of a time where a good old fashioned lights out punch in the face was any fighters reality check and the cure for spoiling, clowning, diva demands, and the "A- Side mentality"... Just my opinion ..

Manny is the biggest diva in the sport.

Remember when he agreed to a 5050 split with Hatton then threatened to pull out at the last minute if he didn't get more money.

Remember that?

Dude is a straight up bitch.

He can't even leave the house without Micheal Kroncz leading him around like a dog.

Straight-up bitch.

[Chino]

Well, Pac fought Marquez at different weights and P4P they are fair opponents for one another. Marquez was just far too small and unprepared to fight Mayweather who had been at the weight for a long time. Of course it would be bizarre for Mayweather to fight Marquez 4 times.

In terms of common opponents, is it not a fact that mini Manny has also beaten them far more ably and easily than Floyd who has been WW at above for a very long time? Not bad for a tiny little man. Cotto pounded. DLH dusted. Mosley massacred. Hatton hammered. But Marquez is to define this fight? I'm not so sure that is the case.

Manny was finally doing a number on Marquez in the 4th fight and just got sloppy. Manny has also shown more strings to his bow in recent years. Mayweather on the other hand is losing his legs and is getting tagged a lot. He cannot afford to have no legs and get tagged too much against Manny.

I think output and activity will be the difference in this one. Maybe a bit like Calzaghe/Hopkins except Pac can hit harder and Mayweather will perhaps try to spoil even more.

Glad to see someone recognize that pac was mashing marquez up before that "perfect Punch" koed his ass. If not for that punch, Marquez wouldve left that fight looking like a different person, but it is what it is.

LIke Ive said before, floyd is showing his age. Getting hit more, slowing down, and not having any type of punch output.

If manny can come in with a high output, He will either tko floyd late or just win on points.
Floyd cant match the output.

If Manny doesnt and tries to box floyd he will lose

Manny didn't look spectacular against journeyman Algieri or Rios did he?

[Julius Rain]

Well, Pac fought Marquez at different weights and P4P they are fair opponents for one another. Marquez was just far too small and unprepared to fight Mayweather who had been at the weight for a long time. Of course it would be bizarre for Mayweather to fight Marquez 4 times.

In terms of common opponents, is it not a fact that mini Manny has also beaten them far more ably and easily than Floyd who has been WW at above for a very long time? Not bad for a tiny little man. Cotto pounded. DLH dusted. Mosley massacred. Hatton hammered. But Marquez is to define this fight? I'm not so sure that is the case.

Manny was finally doing a number on Marquez in the 4th fight and just got sloppy. Manny has also shown more strings to his bow in recent years. Mayweather on the other hand is losing his legs and is getting tagged a lot. He cannot afford to have no legs and get tagged too much against Manny.

I think output and activity will be the difference in this one. Maybe a bit like Calzaghe/Hopkins except Pac can hit harder and Mayweather will perhaps try to spoil even more.

Glad to see someone recognize that pac was mashing marquez up before that "perfect Punch" koed his ass. If not for that punch, Marquez wouldve left that fight looking like a different person, but it is what it is.

LIke Ive said before, floyd is showing his age. Getting hit more, slowing down, and not having any type of punch output.

If manny can come in with a high output, He will either tko floyd late or just win on points.
Floyd cant match the output.

If Manny doesnt and tries to box floyd he will lose

Manny didn't look spectacular against journeyman Algieri or Rios did he?

Winning every round isn't good enough?

So many clowns still here.