@pacfan thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to answer those questions. I half expected those answers but was hoping to hear a little more positive aspects of his situation. I read an article about Manny and the Evangelicals and exactly what you said was my take on the situation. People got there claws into Manny and became comfortable there. Damn, I'm sure he goes into everything with the best of intentions but sometimes it's easy to get led astray. Well, if you are gonna back him for pres, I'm with you on that one. We have plenty of absentee legislators here as well, especially around presidential election times.