Andy Lee - Billy Joe Saunders, who wins?

[ross]

I think saunders beats Lee relatively comfortably.

Hes a fellow southpaw so the stance wouldnt give Saunders any problems and Saunders I would say would throw and land more than Quillin did.

Lee is ok if he gets the chance to land but hes not fluid enough to catch up with Saunders.

Saunders is better than we thought and im dissapointed with his next scheduled fight. Hes sort of fallen by the wayside when you compare his career with Eubanks since their fight. Eubank has impressed against an undefeated belt holder while saunders sits around scratching his ass on the sidelines.

Saunders is better than YOU thought I have always rated him. He may not have huge power but he is quick and has enough skill and the ability to throw combinations to put people off their own work. He will throw in bunches and not let Lee set, if he is on top form. Lee can crack a bit though, so I am not writing him off.

He's definitely better than I thought. He's quite defeatist though. He always says he'd never beat Golovkin and I think even he himself gets embarrassed by it because last time. I heard him say it he tried to drag Eubank in with it as well saying golovkin would beat them both on the same night. He's doing himself a disservice because I think golovkin would have problems with both. Certainly more than he did with Murray. It must do Warrens head in listening to Saunders say those things. He doesn't seem to have enough self belief to really be a star.

You don't hear any fighter from any other weight talk about how they'd never beat the best in the division. Whats the point of being there?

[Dark Lord Al]

I would love to see Lee v Saunders and GGG v Eubank .

[Fenster]

It's refreshing to hear a young fighter say "Golovkin would kill me and him on the same night." It's called being a realist.

Billy Joe will box Lee's head off but might not be strong enough to win. Good fight.

Judging by Lee-Quillin - Eubank jr would beat both now.

[ross]

It's refreshing to hear a young fighter say "Golovkin would kill me and him on the same night." It's called being a realist.

Billy Joe will box Lee's head off but might not be strong enough to win. Good fight.

Judging by Lee-Quillin - Eubank jr would beat both now.

It might be refreshing but as a manager or promotor you would be concerned at where your fighters head is at when he says that he cant beat certain fighters. When you are pumping your own money in to promoting that fighter you want him to at least believe in himself.

England never do anything at the world cup but would never say they would be beaten and so would Germany in the same night by Brazil and as a supporter you wouldn't want to hear that either.

Maybe thats why frank has put him in with someone who has 9 losses. Maybe Saunders needs the confidence boost.

[Master]

It's refreshing to hear a young fighter say "Golovkin would kill me and him on the same night." It's called being a realist.

Billy Joe will box Lee's head off but might not be strong enough to win. Good fight.

Judging by Lee-Quillin - Eubank jr would beat both now.

It might be refreshing but as a manager or promotor you would be concerned at where your fighters head is at when he says that he cant beat certain fighters. When you are pumping your own money in to promoting that fighter you want him to at least believe in himself.

England never do anything at the world cup but would never say they would be beaten and so would Germany in the same night by Brazil and as a supporter you wouldn't want to hear that either.

Maybe thats why frank has put him in with someone who has 9 losses. Maybe Saunders needs the confidence boost.

What Saunders said is the truth and he should be applauded with his honesty. Not criticised for lacking confidence and self belief.

[Primo Carnera]

To be fair to Saunders , I think the point he was making was to highlight the ridiculousness of the comments made by the the Eubank camp that Jr. (Bearing in mind that at the time he was no more than a novice) "could beat Golovkin tomorrow , and the only boxer on the planet that would beat him in the MW AND SMW divisions was Andre Ward!
If by chance Saunders was due to fight GGG , I don't think he would be saying anything different to what Martin Murray said in his build up. Along the lines of "GGG is a great fighter and I'll be honest I haven't seen many weaknesses , but I think I can win."
Nobody thought Murray was being defeatist, just honest.

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To be fair to Saunders , I think the point he was making was to highlight the ridiculousness of the comments made by the the Eubank camp that Jr. (Bearing in mind that at the time he was no more than a novice) "could beat Golovkin tomorrow , and the only boxer on the planet that would beat him in the MW AND SMW divisions was Andre Ward!
If by chance Saunders was due to fight GGG , I don't think he would be saying anything different to what Martin Murray said in his build up. Along the lines of "GGG is a great fighter and I'll be honest I haven't seen many weaknesses , but I think I can win."
Nobody thought Murray was being defeatist, just honest.

Murray wasn't being defeatist. He said he thought he could win.

Saunders says he himself has no chance against Golovkin. Its embarrassing, have some gumption!

It was actually Eubank Sr that said all this and really, who gives a fuck? Id rather hear a fighter say he's going to beat another than listen to whiny, snivelly, wimpy, rubbish.

You have to believe in yourself or no one will get behind you. Who's going to want to watch a fighter who thinks the result is full gone conclusion against him? Would you pay for that?

Would you fuck! We pay to watch a fight!

[Lepinthehood]

Saunders outboxes lee