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    Default Re: Not a good look for Kovalev

    Why would this remotely affect the fight, like Stevenson was under the impression the guy liked/respected him or something? If another black fighter did the same thing it would just have been funny, Ali called Foreman a gorilla when he didn't look nearly as much like one as Stevenson does. Uploading a picture in bad taste, and even being a racist, isn't quite as scummy as pimping women imo, but each their own.

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    Default Re: Not a good look for Kovalev

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Why would this remotely affect the fight, like Stevenson was under the impression the guy liked/respected him or something? If another black fighter did the same thing it would just have been funny, Ali called Foreman a gorilla when he didn't look nearly as much like one as Stevenson does. Uploading a picture in bad taste, and even being a racist, isn't quite as scummy as pimping women imo, but each their own.
    Seriously? We have all been saying and the circumstances point us to it that prior to this, Adonis was looking for a way out of the fight. Now Kovalev provides it for him by playing the race card internationally with pictures FFS. The Michael camp will run with this and so will Haymon. At a kids birthday party yet. Did he buy the kid that shirt and does that kid go wander around Russia with it? So its systemic then?

    Anyway here is a translation. The English is a little broken because its a direct one but I'm sure it will explain the thoughts of those effected adequately.

    A photo with a stupid and disgusting text. Sergey Kovalev posing with a young boy wearing a t-shirt with a picture of a monkey. And Kovalev, thick and ignorant, adds a sentence ". Adonis looks good"
    When Georges Laraque saw the photo on the Twitter account Kovalev, his blood has a beat and strongly written Kovalev, "Hey! Do you realize that it's racist you throw in public? "
    A few minutes later, Kovalev withdrew the photo. But the damage was already done.
    Fans and other people had already sent the photo and racist comments to other curious.
    And yesterday morning, Georges Laraque, which led sixty Haitians for a street hockey world championship with a visit to the "fabulous" Winnebago Jean-Charles Lajoie, sent me the picture and leave me a call " No, but you must be stupid! Should you be thick! "Hammered" Big George ".
    STEVENSON MEXICO CITY
    In Mexico City, where he met the leaders of the WBC, which honored by giving a luxury watch him Adonis Stevenson had been briefed by Laracque of what had happened. George had sent the photo and had spoken to him, "Adonis, you negotiate with these people, must know to whom you to do," said Laraque.
    In the following minutes, Stevenson had already answered Kovalev: "You're a racist and you're stupid! If you want to fight, hits above the waist. Boxing is not a discrimination case, "responded the WBC champion. Adding that instead of using a child for his racism, it would be better to face off in the ring.
    Later, Stevenson added: "All I have to say is that Kovalev is really con," he wrote to me when I met Impact players to their hotel.
    This kind of aggression is well known to many soccer players. Gentlemen like Patrice Bernier played in countries where racism is expressed even roughly. We launch bananas on the field, screaming profanities. Most young people are often upset, veterans know that only education, perhaps, may end up changing things. "Kovalev is Russian. In addition, it depends on what region it originates. Several players have had problems with racism in Russia. When I played in Germany, my wife was taking German lessons with other wives of players. Including Russians. And when they learned that my wife was married to a Black, they could not hide their surprise. I do not want to generalize, but that's what happened, "said Bernier during a casual conversation in the lobby of the hotel yesterday afternoon.
    When we say that a new travel fast, Yvon Michel arrived in Port-au-Prince when he texted me, "Kovalev is a fool."
    It does not surprise me. It has been several times that Michael argues that journalists and fans were fooled by Kovalev during the fight against Jean Pascal. When I later joined on the terrace of his hotel, he epilogue on the subject. "What he did was stupid. This is a great lack of judgment. But you will discover how Sergey Kovalev is petty and narrow-minded. I'm not sure that people will find the friendly long time, "said Michel.
    The developer meets with President of Haiti today to finalize the details of the battle presented to Port-au-Prince on 27 or 29 June featuring Stevenson in a title defense.
    COSTLY MISTAKE
    This stupid blunder Kovalev could be costly. For a Russian champion like him, money is not necessarily in the United States. While GYM, Eye of the Tiger Management and InterBox developed an extraordinary market boxing in Quebec.
    If Kathy Duva and HBO absolutely want to avoid confrontation against Adonis Stevenson and especially Al Haymon, they will need a basic market to sell tickets and collect dollars from Canadian and Quebec television.
    But Quebec do not much racist ... and serious companies are cautious about the idea of ​​investing in someone capable of such poor judgment.
    But what Sergey Kovalev he have thought?

    Be quite the bill though eh. Racist vs Rapist.
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    Default Re: Not a good look for Kovalev

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Why would this remotely affect the fight, like Stevenson was under the impression the guy liked/respected him or something? If another black fighter did the same thing it would just have been funny, Ali called Foreman a gorilla when he didn't look nearly as much like one as Stevenson does. Uploading a picture in bad taste, and even being a racist, isn't quite as scummy as pimping women imo, but each their own.
    Seriously? We have all been saying and the circumstances point us to it that prior to this, Adonis was looking for a way out of the fight. Now Kovalev provides it for him by playing the race card internationally with pictures FFS. The Michael camp will run with this and so will Haymon. At a kids birthday party yet. Did he buy the kid that shirt and does that kid go wonder around Russia with it? So its systemic then?

    Anyway here is a translation. The English is a little broken because its a direct one but I'm sure it will explain the thoughts of those effected adequately.

    A photo with a stupid and disgusting text. Sergey Kovalev posing with a young boy wearing a t-shirt with a picture of a monkey. And Kovalev, thick and ignorant, adds a sentence ". Adonis looks good"
    When Georges Laraque saw the photo on the Twitter account Kovalev, his blood has a beat and strongly written Kovalev, "Hey! Do you realize that it's racist you throw in public? "
    A few minutes later, Kovalev withdrew the photo. But the damage was already done.
    Fans and other people had already sent the photo and racist comments to other curious.
    And yesterday morning, Georges Laraque, which led sixty Haitians for a street hockey world championship with a visit to the "fabulous" Winnebago Jean-Charles Lajoie, sent me the picture and leave me a call " No, but you must be stupid! Should you be thick! "Hammered" Big George ".
    STEVENSON MEXICO CITY
    In Mexico City, where he met the leaders of the WBC, which honored by giving a luxury watch him Adonis Stevenson had been briefed by Laracque of what had happened. George had sent the photo and had spoken to him, "Adonis, you negotiate with these people, must know to whom you to do," said Laraque.
    In the following minutes, Stevenson had already answered Kovalev: "You're a racist and you're stupid! If you want to fight, hits above the waist. Boxing is not a discrimination case, "responded the WBC champion. Adding that instead of using a child for his racism, it would be better to face off in the ring.
    Later, Stevenson added: "All I have to say is that Kovalev is really con," he wrote to me when I met Impact players to their hotel.
    This kind of aggression is well known to many soccer players. Gentlemen like Patrice Bernier played in countries where racism is expressed even roughly. We launch bananas on the field, screaming profanities. Most young people are often upset, veterans know that only education, perhaps, may end up changing things. "Kovalev is Russian. In addition, it depends on what region it originates. Several players have had problems with racism in Russia. When I played in Germany, my wife was taking German lessons with other wives of players. Including Russians. And when they learned that my wife was married to a Black, they could not hide their surprise. I do not want to generalize, but that's what happened, "said Bernier during a casual conversation in the lobby of the hotel yesterday afternoon.
    When we say that a new travel fast, Yvon Michel arrived in Port-au-Prince when he texted me, "Kovalev is a fool."
    It does not surprise me. It has been several times that Michael argues that journalists and fans were fooled by Kovalev during the fight against Jean Pascal. When I later joined on the terrace of his hotel, he epilogue on the subject. "What he did was stupid. This is a great lack of judgment. But you will discover how Sergey Kovalev is petty and narrow-minded. I'm not sure that people will find the friendly long time, "said Michel.
    The developer meets with President of Haiti today to finalize the details of the battle presented to Port-au-Prince on 27 or 29 June featuring Stevenson in a title defense.
    COSTLY MISTAKE
    This stupid blunder Kovalev could be costly. For a Russian champion like him, money is not necessarily in the United States. While GYM, Eye of the Tiger Management and InterBox developed an extraordinary market boxing in Quebec.
    If Kathy Duva and HBO absolutely want to avoid confrontation against Adonis Stevenson and especially Al Haymon, they will need a basic market to sell tickets and collect dollars from Canadian and Quebec television.
    But Quebec do not much racist ... and serious companies are cautious about the idea of ​​investing in someone capable of such poor judgment.
    But what Sergey Kovalev he have thought?
    Be quite the bill though eh. Racist vs Rapist.


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    Default Re: Not a good look for Kovalev

    Damn, first I heard of this. Not cool having the kid involved either. I liked Kov in the interviews I've seen with him, he seemed like a decent guy. Leave the stupid stuff alone and fight.

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    He's been fighting and living in the US for 6 years. If he hasn't bothered to learn that directly comparing a black man to a gorilla is gong to be interpreted as racist or hateful or in poor taste then he's either really stupid or ignorant or actually hate filled and racist. Especially since he put the shirt on his little aryan son and is smiling ear to ear with a shit eating grin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    He's been fighting and living in the US for 6 years. If he hasn't bothered to learn that directly comparing a black man to a gorilla is gong to be interpreted as racist or hateful or in poor taste then he's either really stupid or ignorant or actually hate filled and racist. Especially since he put the shirt on his little aryan son and is smiling ear to ear with a shit eating grin!
    I had not realized that which makes him look even worse. Although that is one racist I would not like to meet in a dark alley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    He's been fighting and living in the US for 6 years. If he hasn't bothered to learn that directly comparing a black man to a gorilla is gong to be interpreted as racist or hateful or in poor taste then he's either really stupid or ignorant or actually hate filled and racist. Especially since he put the shirt on his little aryan son and is smiling ear to ear with a shit eating grin!
    Tell me about it.

    He's trained by Black trainers...and his promoter is married to a BM.
    He might as well keep it real and get whites to train his ass.

    That Gorilla is getting paid when he's getting pimped.

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    So we can conclude it was in very bad taste to put that shirt on your child and make that comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    He's been fighting and living in the US for 6 years. If he hasn't bothered to learn that directly comparing a black man to a gorilla is gong to be interpreted as racist or hateful or in poor taste then he's either really stupid or ignorant or actually hate filled and racist. Especially since he put the shirt on his little aryan son and is smiling ear to ear with a shit eating grin!
    A lot of that shit isn't talked about now a days. He's been there 6 years, but it's not like he's studying American culture. He goes into a gym every day and throws heavy leather at people, spends time with his family and maybe works on his English if he has time. He barely speaks the language, how is he supposed to learn all the nuances of race relations in the United States? What does it prove that he's grinning? He'd also be grinning if he was making fun of Adonis' look and intelligence, not his race.

    Remember there was an actress who got in trouble for dressing up as the crazy black chick from Orange is the New Black, complete with black face paint, and had no idea about the racial ramifications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    He's been fighting and living in the US for 6 years. If he hasn't bothered to learn that directly comparing a black man to a gorilla is gong to be interpreted as racist or hateful or in poor taste then he's either really stupid or ignorant or actually hate filled and racist. Especially since he put the shirt on his little aryan son and is smiling ear to ear with a shit eating grin!
    A lot of that shit isn't talked about now a days. He's been there 6 years, but it's not like he's studying American culture. He goes into a gym every day and throws heavy leather at people, spends time with his family and maybe works on his English if he has time. He barely speaks the language, how is he supposed to learn all the nuances of race relations in the United States? What does it prove that he's grinning? He'd also be grinning if he was making fun of Adonis' look and intelligence, not his race.

    Remember there was an actress who got in trouble for dressing up as the crazy black chick from Orange is the New Black, complete with black face paint, and had no idea about the racial ramifications.
    That is weak...thanks for showing your true colors though

    LOTS of fighters from white countries don't behave in such a way.

    He's been warned about his behavior before.

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    He chose to shame Stevenson by choosing a gorilla with boxing gloves for a reason.
    It suggests that Stevenson is a large muscular beast but is sub human in looks and intelligence and is nothing more than a primate. Whereas Kovalev and his aryan looking son are able to laugh about how inferior he is and about how he's just a joke on a t-shirt and someone to publicly humiliate and ridicule on twitter.

    Here are some images that Kovalev could have used if he had wanted to poke fun of Stevenson in a less offensive and demeaning way. Some of these are outright cute.

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    Default Re: Not a good look for Kovalev

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post

    A lot of that shit isn't talked about now a days. He's been there 6 years, but it's not like he's studying American culture. He goes into a gym every day and throws heavy leather at people, spends time with his family and maybe works on his English if he has time. He barely speaks the language, how is he supposed to learn all the nuances of race relations in the United States? .
    I'm not so sure mate, associating blacks with monkeys is pretty universal. Russia is pretty famous for being a racist country, I can only remember specific incidents from football at this moment of time but they have thrown bananas at black footballer and chanted monkey sounds at them.. I would be amazed if kovalev was not aware of the racial element to his post, it seems to be a fairly standard racist insult in russia... Whether that makes him an actual racist or not is another matter, he might have just made a bad call on the humour front.

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