Andre Ward - Paul Smith Set for June 20th

[Ron Swanson]

I'm pleased for Paul Smith that he's got this payday, and I think it'll be his last fight. As for Ward, ok he's been out the ring a long time, don't take too big a risk, but why did he talk about GGG and Froch, and why is the Smith fight not for the title? It's not the governing body's fault he's been out of the ring so long, and it's not the Fan's fault either.
And the new!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not talk about GG and Froch.


I thought the Smith fight was for the title.

Because GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before!
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.

It wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.

Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$

[Primo Carnera]

I'm pleased for Paul Smith that he's got this payday, and I think it'll be his last fight. As for Ward, ok he's been out the ring a long time, don't take too big a risk, but why did he talk about GGG and Froch, and why is the Smith fight not for the title? It's not the governing body's fault he's been out of the ring so long, and it's not the Fan's fault either.
And the new!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not talk about GG and Froch.


I thought the Smith fight was for the title.

Because GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before!
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.

It wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.

Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$

Well that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.

[corvette]

I'm pleased for Paul Smith that he's got this payday, and I think it'll be his last fight. As for Ward, ok he's been out the ring a long time, don't take too big a risk, but why did he talk about GGG and Froch, and why is the Smith fight not for the title? It's not the governing body's fault he's been out of the ring so long, and it's not the Fan's fault either.
And the new!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not talk about GG and Froch.


I thought the Smith fight was for the title.

Because GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before!
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.

It wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.

Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$

Well that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.

Strong cases drag out all the time in the real world.

GGG has had promotional issues himself...that's part of the reason he's the oldest prospect on earth.

Dude is still trying to fight Chavez Jr at 168.....hahahahaha

[Primo Carnera]

I'm pleased for Paul Smith that he's got this payday, and I think it'll be his last fight. As for Ward, ok he's been out the ring a long time, don't take too big a risk, but why did he talk about GGG and Froch, and why is the Smith fight not for the title? It's not the governing body's fault he's been out of the ring so long, and it's not the Fan's fault either.
And the new!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not talk about GG and Froch.


I thought the Smith fight was for the title.

Because GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before!
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.

It wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.

Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$

Well that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.

Strong cases drag out all the time in the real world.

GGG has had promotional issues himself...that's part of the reason he's the oldest prospect on earth.

Dude is still trying to fight Chavez Jr at 168.....hahahahaha

Link??
and then , when I've seen the link, we'll discuss who you think would win if Chavez fought Paul Smith? "hahahahahahahaha" smh.

[corvette]

I'm pleased for Paul Smith that he's got this payday, and I think it'll be his last fight. As for Ward, ok he's been out the ring a long time, don't take too big a risk, but why did he talk about GGG and Froch, and why is the Smith fight not for the title? It's not the governing body's fault he's been out of the ring so long, and it's not the Fan's fault either.
And the new!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not talk about GG and Froch.


I thought the Smith fight was for the title.

Because GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before!
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.

It wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.

Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$

Well that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.

Strong cases drag out all the time in the real world.

GGG has had promotional issues himself...that's part of the reason he's the oldest prospect on earth.

Dude is still trying to fight Chavez Jr at 168.....hahahahaha

Link??
and then , when I've seen the link, we'll discuss who you think would win if Chavez fought Paul Smith? "hahahahahahahaha" smh.

Chavez Jr would whip everybody on lil GG's resume....

[Primo Carnera]

I'm pleased for Paul Smith that he's got this payday, and I think it'll be his last fight. As for Ward, ok he's been out the ring a long time, don't take too big a risk, but why did he talk about GGG and Froch, and why is the Smith fight not for the title? It's not the governing body's fault he's been out of the ring so long, and it's not the Fan's fault either.
And the new!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not talk about GG and Froch.


I thought the Smith fight was for the title.

Because GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before!
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.

It wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.

Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$

Well that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.

Strong cases drag out all the time in the real world.

GGG has had promotional issues himself...that's part of the reason he's the oldest prospect on earth.

Dude is still trying to fight Chavez Jr at 168.....hahahahaha

Link??
and then , when I've seen the link, we'll discuss who you think would win if Chavez fought Paul Smith? "hahahahahahahaha" smh.

Chavez Jr would whip everybody on lil GG's resume....

Yet again, that doesn't really answer the question, you're good at that , well done.
but going on from that, if Chavez "would whip everybody on lil GG's resume," then surely by your way of thinking (Warped!), it wouldn't be a bad fight for him?
wait...........what's that noise? oh it's the sound of you shooting yourself in the foot!!!

[corvette]

I'm pleased for Paul Smith that he's got this payday, and I think it'll be his last fight. As for Ward, ok he's been out the ring a long time, don't take too big a risk, but why did he talk about GGG and Froch, and why is the Smith fight not for the title? It's not the governing body's fault he's been out of the ring so long, and it's not the Fan's fault either.
And the new!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not talk about GG and Froch.


I thought the Smith fight was for the title.

Because GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before!
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.

It wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.

Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$

Well that's all very noble of Ward , and I have heard something about that in the past, but he's dpiping his toes into shit he doesn't know about, and he needs to concentrate on his boxing. if his case was strong , it wouldn't have gone on for so long.
regarding GGG and Chavez, I haven't seen anything anywhere about GGG saying that, and admittedly I'm not privy to everything that happens in the states, but I would be interested to see a link relating to that.

Strong cases drag out all the time in the real world.

GGG has had promotional issues himself...that's part of the reason he's the oldest prospect on earth.

Dude is still trying to fight Chavez Jr at 168.....hahahahaha

Link??
and then , when I've seen the link, we'll discuss who you think would win if Chavez fought Paul Smith? "hahahahahahahaha" smh.

To answer your questi Jr would whip everybody on lil GG's resume....

Yet again, that doesn't really answer the question, you're good at that , well done.
but going on from that, if Chavez "would whip everybody on lil GG's resume," then surely by your way of thinking (Warped!), it wouldn't be a bad fight for him?
wait...........what's that noise? oh it's the sound of you shooting yourself in the foot!!!

Smith would be a good fight for Chavez Jr coming of a KO loss.

He's a tune-up level guy....just like those guys on Golovkin's resume.

[corvette]

I'm pleased for Paul Smith that he's got this payday, and I think it'll be his last fight. As for Ward, ok he's been out the ring a long time, don't take too big a risk, but why did he talk about GGG and Froch, and why is the Smith fight not for the title? It's not the governing body's fault he's been out of the ring so long, and it's not the Fan's fault either.
And the new!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not talk about GG and Froch.


I thought the Smith fight was for the title.

Because GGG and Froch haven't been calling each other out, with Froch actually saying it's not realistic. Keep up Corvette, I've told you all this before!
I read that when the fight was made, it wouldn't be for the title, that might've changed , it hardly matters.
My point is, that Ward is a great Boxer, and no doubt he would beat GGG and Froch pretty handily when he's anywhere near the top of his game.
However, if you think you need a tune up fight after so long out of the ring , fine, but don't go bullshitting and calling people out if you have no intention of following through.
Also , as much as I like Ward as a Boxer, I think that he isn't as clever as he thinks he is and has tried to dictate to promoters etc. and consequently fucked up the best earning years of his career. If he was in a shit contract with Goosen, get through it , don't re-sign and learn from it when negotiating his next one. A perfect example that he should've taken was Floyd. He wasn't happy with Bob Arum, he bought himself out of the contract, took the hit, and has moved forward and never looked back since. That's how you do it, now he is in total control.
He needs to talk less , get back between the ropes REGULARLY and do what he does best, and that is hand out boxing lessons.

It wasn't the contract that was the problem. He received a signing bonus not from Goosen. Goosen promised to pay the man back that fronted the signing bonus but did not. Andre just wanted a man owed money to get what was coming to him.

Froch isn't available yet and GGG is looking for paydays, he says he still wants to move up to 168 for Chavez even after the loss. But when it comes to Ward GGG is too busy cleaning out MW. The writing is on the wall with that potential fight. That's right, right after Chavez got destroyed GGG said he still wants to fight Chavez. Sad really but I suppose it isn't about good fights at all just $$$$$

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