mayweather taking the same drug tests as pac?

[Beanflicker]

Pain medication is not a performance enhancer lol.

[fan johnny]

Pain medication is not a performance enhancer lol.

Removing pain so an athlete can preform who otherwise would not, certainly is performance enhancing. In addition it gives them a sense of euphoria. The kind that Floyd has used is just not on the prohibited list in nevada.

[ruthless rocco]

Pain medication is not a performance enhancer lol.

Removing pain so an athlete can preform who otherwise would not, certainly is performance enhancing. In addition it gives them a sense of euphoria. The kind that Floyd has used is just not on the prohibited list in nevada.

Tell me more about this preforming of which you speak... @fan johnny

[erics44]

floyd puts fast acting roid pellets up his bum for every fight

[fan johnny]

Pain medication is not a performance enhancer lol.

Removing pain so an athlete can preform who otherwise would not, certainly is performance enhancing. In addition it gives them a sense of euphoria. The kind that Floyd has used is just not on the prohibited list in nevada.

Tell me more about this preforming of which you speak... @fan johnny

Great point, I'm using a cell phone with auto correct and don't see tiny letters all that well. I'm not going to ride the Mery-go-round with you on this dumb as subject.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AAIQBcpHpSs

[corvette]

Pain medication is not a performance enhancer lol.

Removing pain so an athlete can preform who otherwise would not, certainly is performance enhancing. In addition it gives them a sense of euphoria. The kind that Floyd has used is just not on the prohibited list in nevada.

You are one dumb ass little Hobbit.

[chris6878]

Pain medication is not a performance enhancer lol.

you sure? track athletes have been busted for taking medication for pain......also why is this pain medication only legal in nevada?

[Gandalf]

Pain medication is not a performance enhancer lol.

Isn't it? I would imagine in many instances it is and either way a pain killer is rather different to Vitamin C. Floyd numbs his hands as he cannot take the pain of natural hands. It is a performance enhancer.

[Beanflicker]

Pain medication is not a performance enhancer lol.

Isn't it? I would imagine in many instances it is and either way a pain killer is rather different to Vitamin C. Floyd numbs his hands as he cannot take the pain of natural hands. It is a performance enhancer.

Ok well like I said above, let's cut the semantics and call it a performance enhancer. It's still a LEGAL, UNBANNED substance. So how is it any different than taking a vitamin supplement or a protein shake? I don't understand why we're even having the conversation. It's not unbalancing the playing field: Floyd's opponents could have shot up their hands as well. If it's not against the rules, who cares?

[Gandalf]

Legal or illegal, so what? Cocaine is illegal, but Novacaine will be injected by a dentist. The difference is arbitrary. If a drug allows you to do something you otherwise couldn't do so effectively, then it has to be performance enhancing. What am I missing? Shouldn't drugs be banned from sports full stop if they affect performance? Floyd is a known user of performance enhancing drugs. It is what it is and there seems to be more evidence of that than what there is against Manny. I don't really care either way really, but Floyd isn't squeaky clean.

Washy terms like illegal and legal don't really make it okay to a rational person who wants to see a level playing field in boxing. Why should an opponent be allowed to take performance enhancing drugs? If he isn't able to cut it at the top, then he should find another day job. What next, legless boxers with robotic legs? After all, they should be allowed to compete like anyone else. I'm not convinced.

[Beanflicker]

Legal or illegal, so what? Cocaine is illegal, but Novacaine will be injected by a dentist. The difference is arbitrary. If a drug allows you to do something you otherwise couldn't do so effectively, then it has to be performance enhancing. What am I missing? Shouldn't drugs be banned from sports full stop if they affect performance? Floyd is a known user of performance enhancing drugs. It is what it is and there seems to be more evidence of that than what there is against Manny. I don't really care either way really, but Floyd isn't squeaky clean.

Washy terms like illegal and legal don't really make it okay to a rational person who wants to see a level playing field in boxing. Why should an opponent be allowed to take performance enhancing drugs? If he isn't able to cut it at the top, then he should find another day job. What next, legless boxers with robotic legs? After all, they should be allowed to compete like anyone else. I'm not convinced.

Legal or illegal so what? lol, that's the entire point! Legal = you're allowed to do it, illegal = you're not allowed and you're a cheater.

Drugs should be banned full stop? Okay, does that include medicine? If Floyd or Manny take an antibiotic to clear up an infection, is that not also a performance enhancer? So if one of them catches the flu, they shouldn't be allowed to take something for that so they can get back to training? You're being ridiculous. Bottom line, substances are either illegal or legal. If you're taking something that's perfectly legal, what's the problem? Your gripe isn't with Mayweather, it should be with the commission for allowing it.

Also, I have to laugh at anyone here who's talking about an "even playing field". There's no truly even playing field that exists in life and certainly not in sport: everyone is born with advantages and disadvantages. Klitschko was blessed to be 6'6'' and an athletic specimen: everything else equal, how is the playing field ever going to be even for him and, let's say, Andy Ruiz or Chris Arreola?

How is a fight like Manny vs Algieri or Floyd vs Maidana going to be on an even playing field when both Pac and Floyd have MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars to invest in a training camp that Algeiri and Maidana did not. For this fight, Floyd is paying a private chef $1000 PER MEAL, and she's on constant stand by for him. He has businesses waiting on him hand and foot, anxiously awaiting his call any time of the day or night. How is that an even playing field? Come on. You Pac fans are ridiculous.

[arcanum26]

What I imagine a guy named Ruthless Rocco does for a day job.

[Master]

I should just delete this thread but it got funny.

[chris6878]

[Gandalf]

Legal or illegal, so what? Cocaine is illegal, but Novacaine will be injected by a dentist. The difference is arbitrary. If a drug allows you to do something you otherwise couldn't do so effectively, then it has to be performance enhancing. What am I missing? Shouldn't drugs be banned from sports full stop if they affect performance? Floyd is a known user of performance enhancing drugs. It is what it is and there seems to be more evidence of that than what there is against Manny. I don't really care either way really, but Floyd isn't squeaky clean.

Washy terms like illegal and legal don't really make it okay to a rational person who wants to see a level playing field in boxing. Why should an opponent be allowed to take performance enhancing drugs? If he isn't able to cut it at the top, then he should find another day job. What next, legless boxers with robotic legs? After all, they should be allowed to compete like anyone else. I'm not convinced.

Legal or illegal so what? lol, that's the entire point! Legal = you're allowed to do it, illegal = you're not allowed and you're a cheater.

Drugs should be banned full stop? Okay, does that include medicine? If Floyd or Manny take an antibiotic to clear up an infection, is that not also a performance enhancer? So if one of them catches the flu, they shouldn't be allowed to take something for that so they can get back to training? You're being ridiculous. Bottom line, substances are either illegal or legal. If you're taking something that's perfectly legal, what's the problem? Your gripe isn't with Mayweather, it should be with the commission for allowing it.

Also, I have to laugh at anyone here who's talking about an "even playing field". There's no truly even playing field that exists in life and certainly not in sport: everyone is born with advantages and disadvantages. Klitschko was blessed to be 6'6'' and an athletic specimen: everything else equal, how is the playing field ever going to be even for him and, let's say, Andy Ruiz or Chris Arreola?

How is a fight like Manny vs Algieri or Floyd vs Maidana going to be on an even playing field when both Pac and Floyd have MILLIONS and MILLIONS of dollars to invest in a training camp that Algeiri and Maidana did not. For this fight, Floyd is paying a private chef $1000 PER MEAL, and she's on constant stand by for him. He has businesses waiting on him hand and foot, anxiously awaiting his call any time of the day or night. How is that an even playing field? Come on. You Pac fans are ridiculous.

I have to say that you are displaying an elitist attitude, the likes of which I hope will become thoroughly annihilated in the revolutions of the coming years. It should be a level playing field and we should do everything we can to get the matchups and clean fighters we can. Don't make excuses for a fighter taking drugs to gain an advantage. Floyd has been very lucky to get away with it. Fighters all have the ability to train hard and eat a healthy meal. You get the same nutrition from a thousand dollars as you do 30 dollars. That is just an elitist attitude and the great equaliser in the end is always age. An expensive camp isn't going to save Floyd just as wealth will not protect you from the mob.

My point about legal and illegal is that it is a randomly imposed element. Law does not equate with right and wrong. Law has little to do with ethics and everything to do with protecting the elite scoundrels and ironically, we find the richest man in boxing got away with using performance enhancing drugs. Why not just let fighters take whatever substances they like at all times then? Or else get serious about it as boxing is not a game? I think the latter option is a more logical one. Just because Floyd got away with it and it was 'legal' does not make it right. Again, it is a horrible elitist sense of values that seeps through. You seem to think it right because the rules were twisted in his favour. In that respect it is you that completely missed my point.