Tyson & Pacquiao

[SlimTrae]

Tyson did brake some bones in their second fight, but he also got a lot of point deductions due to his frustrations of not being able to stop Ruddock?

Hard to dispute the idea that Tyson & ,Ruddock may have beaten the fight out of each other.
Really solid points by both of you.

[Master]

Tyson was disintegrating after Spinks, losing Jacobs and then Rooney, you could see his life and boxing going downhill. He looked awful against Bruno and it was only a matter of time he would be beat. Buster did it and if it was Holyfield he could have done it by 1990.

He was only 24 when he beat Razzor.

[Sleepwalker]

Tyson was disintegrating after Spinks, losing Jacobs and then Rooney, you could see his life and boxing going downhill. He looked awful against Bruno and it was only a matter of time he would be beat. Buster did it and if it was Holyfield he could have done it by 1990.

He was only 24 when he beat Razzor.

Tyson left himself open a few times. He would have gotten rocked by other competent, alert fighters.

[Master]

Tyson was disintegrating after Spinks, losing Jacobs and then Rooney, you could see his life and boxing going downhill. He looked awful against Bruno and it was only a matter of time he would be beat. Buster did it and if it was Holyfield he could have done it by 1990.

He was only 24 when he beat Razzor.

Tyson left himself open a few times. He would have gotten rocked by other competent, alert fighters.

You could count on one hand the times prime Tyson was caught, uppercut against Tucker and right hand against Bonecrusher as well as left hook against Bruno. That was how good his defence was. Tyson's chin was solid.

[El Kabong]

Tyson was disintegrating after Spinks, losing Jacobs and then Rooney, you could see his life and boxing going downhill. He looked awful against Bruno and it was only a matter of time he would be beat. Buster did it and if it was Holyfield he could have done it by 1990.

He was only 24 when he beat Razzor.

Tyson left himself open a few times. He would have gotten rocked by other competent, alert fighters.

Yes but at the same time when you threw against Tyson and missed then you knew what was coming after that miss and that kept a lot of guys from throwing punches they could have landed....a lot of it was guys not confident enough of landing clean on Mike.

[Sleepwalker]

Tyson was disintegrating after Spinks, losing Jacobs and then Rooney, you could see his life and boxing going downhill. He looked awful against Bruno and it was only a matter of time he would be beat. Buster did it and if it was Holyfield he could have done it by 1990.

He was only 24 when he beat Razzor.

Tyson left himself open a few times. He would have gotten rocked by other competent, alert fighters.

Yes but at the same time when you threw against Tyson and missed then you knew what was coming after that miss and that kept a lot of guys from throwing punches they could have landed....a lot of it was guys not confident enough of landing clean on Mike.

Yeah, I forgot to mention FEAR. They were gun shy because they just plain afraid.

[Master]

Tyson was disintegrating after Spinks, losing Jacobs and then Rooney, you could see his life and boxing going downhill. He looked awful against Bruno and it was only a matter of time he would be beat. Buster did it and if it was Holyfield he could have done it by 1990.

He was only 24 when he beat Razzor.

Tyson left himself open a few times. He would have gotten rocked by other competent, alert fighters.

Yes but at the same time when you threw against Tyson and missed then you knew what was coming after that miss and that kept a lot of guys from throwing punches they could have landed....a lot of it was guys not confident enough of landing clean on Mike.

Yeah, I forgot to mention FEAR. They were gun shy because they just plain afraid.

Yes they were. Tyson should have gone to their dressing room and comforted them before they fought.

[El Kabong]

Those guys came honest by that fear because when he was on Tyson would make any 1 mistake an opponent made a fight ending mistake with his speed and power

[Ron Swanson]

Aggressive fighters are always wildly overrated because they look so good when they win. But they can't adjust like boxers.

[SlimTrae]

Aggressive fighters are always wildly overrated because they look so good when they win. But they can't adjust like boxers.

True.

[Sleepwalker]

Aggressive fighters are always wildly overrated because they look so good when they win. But they can't adjust like boxers.

Precisely why I don't feed into the hype of newcomers who come in knocking out 18 of their first 20 opponents or whatever.

[Beanflicker]

Aggressive fighters are always wildly overrated because they look so good when they win. But they can't adjust like boxers.

Ron goddamnit I think you hit the nail on the head.

Everyone loves the puncher and the brawler, but in the end it'll always be the boxer - the TECHNICIAN - who rules the sport.

It's always the same thing: people see a puncher batter a non-mobile, non-technical guy and start thinking that he can do it to everyone. SMH...

Some people expected Pac to throw 100 punches a round against Mayweather like he did against Margarito.