General Election 2015

[Gandalf]

I think there is some truth to it though, Rhun. The media and politics and banking works hand in hand and we know who pulls the strings in those areas. It's no secret that Cameron and Blair were essentially cloned from similar DNA or that Clinton's and Bush's are the American dynasty. This stuff is reality and results prove it again and again now. The money men are deciding these elections and FPTP in the UK makes it easy for them.

Labour hasn't even tried to win this election! Look at their policies. This simply isn't even a Labour Party it just isn't. It was just hoped people could buy a little more time instead of the impending doom that will be the Tories, but even that hasn't worked. The Murdoch's, the HSBC's, the housing mythers, they have it in a bag. The elite and powerful are far more powerful than we want to acknowledge and of course they are against Mr Minimum Wage and his once every half a decade vote. He knows neither party will raise him or give him a home or give him a chance to have a family. He doesn't stand a chance. Why should he care? Is it the workhouse next? Where does it end?

[ryanman]

I think both Miles and Rhun have made very salient points.

I am utterly devastated tonight.

This Labour is not my Labour but fuck I at least wanted to see some movement towards a fair and equitable society but it has got worse.

[superheavyrhun]

Ed Miliband came into the leadership of the Labour Party on the back of a hefty trade union vote, but have we seen the genuine socialist policies that would really get the trade unions on board? No. The fact is, it isn't money men and shady deals that keep Labour shimmying in the middle of the road, its an attempt to draw the middle ground voters, and it clearly hasn't worked.

[superheavyrhun]

I started hitting the beers hard after that exit poll, it just seemed to be so at odds with what I want to happen that I can't see an ending I'm going to enjoy in this evening.

[ryanman]

It's not over yet. If the Tories an Lib Dems together do not hit 326 then we will not accept their legitimacy. They will tell us we need to but the anti-tories do not need to. Their Queen's speech will get voted down. NO TO TORIES!

[superheavyrhun]

It's not over yet. If the Tories an Lib Dems together do not hit 326 then we will not accept their legitimacy. They will tell us we need to but the anti-tories do not need to. Their Queen's speech will get voted down. NO TO TORIES!

I think it's the combination of Tories, DUP and UKIP that need to fall short of 326. Doubt Lib Dem will go back into the coalition for another five years, especially after the way they're going to be decimated.

[ryanman]

It's not over yet. If the Tories an Lib Dems together do not hit 326 then we will not accept their legitimacy. They will tell us we need to but the anti-tories do not need to. Their Queen's speech will get voted down. NO TO TORIES!

I think it's the combination of Tories, DUP and UKIP that need to fall short of 326. Doubt Lib Dem will go back into the coalition for another five years, especially after the way they're going to be decimated.

No you are quite right Rhun. My oversight.

[Gandalf]

Yes, it is much worse than I could have imagined. I thought at least the SNP would be enough to force Milliband to behave a little better and that Labour would have more seats. But this is just too much. Like Ryan, I don't think I can sit through several hours of this moaning and using an inordinate number of expletives. It's not healthy. I am distressed about it, obviously not so much for myself, but because I know plenty of people living through that system and it just isn't right. People shouldn't be faced with suck it up or leave as an option. I think this result is essentially more of that. People have done nothing wrong, it is the system that is wrong. I need a walk, the BBC is suffocating me.