MAYWEATHER / PACQUIAO - Saturday Night - FIGHT THREAD- TR/HBO/SKY

[g3org3]

What a borefest, Floyd is the new Wald and the sooner he retires the better. No one will watch his fight in September.

I will. Floyd is the best fighter of our generation, he might be the best ever. I'll be gutted when he retires.

I won't be gutted when he retires, he's past his best but even a old floyd is still the best of his generation easily and I think he's the best ever.

[Master]

Best ever boxer GTFOH

Do not fall for the hype. He is a great p4p fighter but he is not the best welterweight ever for a start and has no real great rival or produced a great performance where he was an under dog.

Sooner he retires the better.

[Beanflicker]

Best ever boxer GTFOH
has no real great rival or produced a great performance where he was an under dog.

These could be signs that he's just really, really good at boxing though.

[Master]

Best ever boxer GTFOH
has no real great rival or produced a great performance where he was an under dog.

These could be signs that he's just really, really good at boxing though.

Or that he has not faced a better rival or challenge.

[Ron Swanson]

Talking about TBE is pointless. The people against don't even realize how the compliment. Like Master is arguing against but when he lists people to beat Floyd his list was entirely larger men. In a P4P argument that is not intended to be but it is a compliment.

Floyd is the absolute best of his era and there is no reasonable argument against that, that is good enough.

[ruthless rocco]

TBE
-perfect record
-champion for 18 years
-titles in 4 weight divisions (maybe 5th in 2015)
-11 world titles
-self managed
-owns own promotional company
-highest paid athlete 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015
-highest paid boxer ever
-Most money generated in single fight (beat own record)
-first fighter to demand and enforce comprehensive drug testing before and after fights
-has taken very little punishment in ring

Who has better stats than these??

[Master]

Muhammid Ali is known and will be known throughout the world far longer than Floyd ever will be.

[walrus]

No doubt, Floyd's a great fighter. Truly earned his place in the HOF. Not the most exciting the past few years but I certainly appreciate every effort he puts on. Often I find defense just as, or more impressive than offense. Loved Tyson when he was at his defensive high. Did so many amazing things, when I see great defense, literally makes me laugh, in a good way, it can make a competent fighter look inept. Also, I love a great jab. It is no coincidence that Floyd and Wlad have two of the best jabs in boxing. It has been a large part of the success. Despite the crap fight, Manny did a decent job slowing Floyd's jab compared to his last few fights but he still got it in.

[Beanflicker]

Hahhahaa

[TitoFan]

TBE
-perfect record
-champion for 18 years
-titles in 4 weight divisions (maybe 5th in 2015)
-11 world titles
-self managed
-owns own promotional company
-highest paid athlete 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015
-highest paid boxer ever
-Most money generated in single fight (beat own record)
-first fighter to demand and enforce comprehensive drug testing before and after fights
-has taken very little punishment in ring

Who has better stats than these??

If you're trying to make a case for TBE, none of the crossed out items are relevant.

[ruthless rocco]

TBE
-perfect record
-champion for 18 years
-titles in 4 weight divisions (maybe 5th in 2015)
-11 world titles
-self managed
-owns own promotional company
-highest paid athlete 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015
-highest paid boxer ever
-Most money generated in single fight (beat own record)
-first fighter to demand and enforce comprehensive drug testing before and after fights
-has taken very little punishment in ring

Who has better stats than these??

If you're trying to make a case for TBE, none of the crossed out items are relevant.

I guess those "items" as you call them aren't relevant if you don't have them.

Those "items" prove he's on another level from all the rest.

He sets new levels for what a fighter can be and do with his own career. He's not just a fighter who gets beat up all his career and then retires broke because his manager and promoter robbed him blind.

Floyd is calling himself TBE because of ALL those "items".

They may not mean much to you but that's because none of those crossed out "items" are within your reach OR "Illegal Handwraps" Tito Trinidad's reach.

Pathetic! Sore loser you are.

[g3org3]

Best ever boxer GTFOH

Do not fall for the hype. He is a great p4p fighter but he is not the best welterweight ever for a start and has no real great rival or produced a great performance where he was an under dog.

Sooner he retires the better.

Master I've seen all the greats of past and for me personally floyds the best. He's not only beat everyone out there and there's a lot of great fighters he's faced, he's made every single one of them look average. I know a lot of people discredit his 0 but when does it start to mean something

[Master]

Best ever boxer GTFOH

Do not fall for the hype. He is a great p4p fighter but he is not the best welterweight ever for a start and has no real great rival or produced a great performance where he was an under dog.

Sooner he retires the better.

Master I've seen all the greats of past and for me personally floyds the best. He's not only beat everyone out there and there's a lot of great fighters he's faced, he's made every single one of them look average. I know a lot of people discredit his 0 but when does it start to mean something

I would guarantee Leonard, Hearns and Robinson beat him.

I also think he would not have beaten all of the top fighters in the 1990's like Oscar, Sweat Pea, Ike and Tito.

Floyd is an ATG but TBE is the highest accolade to give someone and he does not meet that criteria.

[Beanflicker]

I would guarantee Leonard, Hearns and Robinson beat him.

I also think he would not have beaten all of the top fighters in the 1990's like Oscar, Sweat Pea, Ike and Tito.

Floyd is an ATG but TBE is the highest accolade to give someone and he does not meet that criteria.

I dunno man I know a good thing when I see it and this Floyd guy is the real deal.

[g3org3]

Best ever boxer GTFOH

Do not fall for the hype. He is a great p4p fighter but he is not the best welterweight ever for a start and has no real great rival or produced a great performance where he was an under dog.

Sooner he retires the better.

Master I've seen all the greats of past and for me personally floyds the best. He's not only beat everyone out there and there's a lot of great fighters he's faced, he's made every single one of them look average. I know a lot of people discredit his 0 but when does it start to mean something

I would guarantee Leonard, Hearns and Robinson beat him.

I also think he would not have beaten all of the top fighters in the 1990's like Oscar, Sweat Pea, Ike and Tito.

Floyd is an ATG but TBE is the highest accolade to give someone and he does not meet that criteria.

See that's the problem with now vs past your saying you guarantee they would beat floyd when it's impossible to say, so it's pointless these type of conversations that's why I always say in my opinion he's the best ever.
Also was watching a lot of interviews last night on YouTube I never realised Oscar made floyd use 10oz gloves. Maybe it's been talked about before and I just missed it but would like to see people's views on this, having boxed myself going from 8 oz to 10s is a noticeable difference.