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Where GBPs is messing up is, well it's all over the place. First, incentive. GBPs had no problem with Haymon as long as he was working exclusively with GBPs. That is a conflict of interests. Now they have sold fighters to Haymon and want to sue him for their benefit? It's nonsense, they are getting a higher percentage. So GBPs wants to sue to get them a worse deal, for their benefit? It's laughable.

Now on to the meat and potatoes. The thing they are suing over is false. Haymon is not the Manager and Promoter. PBC is not a promoter like The WBO is not a promoter. And Haymon is hiring different promoters on one off contracts for different events. They really have absolutely nothing on him. Nothing!

Where the WBO wants to get involved has nothing to do with getting Haymon for what he is doing. It's about redefining the parameters about what he is allowed to do. It's to undermine the PBC which benefits fighters but hurts the sanctioning bodies. So the WBO is only self interested, just like GBPs. And it is so transparent that it undermines GBPs already flimsy case.

This lawsuit basically says "we all want our cuts, we want the fighters to get less. But we want them to get less for their good" GTFOOH with that trash.

If you can't see through this nonsense I pity you and offer 2 questions. 1)do you really think Haymon got hundreds of millions of dollars from people when he was breaking the most famous rule in boxing, or would one of these very wealthy men have broached this obvious question? And 2)why is GBPs doing this now?

Answer those questions and you will see their motives and how badly they will be crushed in court.
I don't care about GBP or AL Haymon's motivations, other than it affects the fighter. I don't care if they win or lose a lawsuit. I'm pointing out that GBP is not "misunderstanding" the Muhammad Ali Act. In any event, GBP is two faced same as Al Haymon and any other promoter that cheats the fighter and I hope the fighter comes out the better for it.

How do you know how many millions of dollars Al Haymon has or how he makes contracts with the fighters? If GBP is suing as indicated in the article over conflict of interest, I would think they have some of the fighter's (s) contacts that show who and how the fighters are being represented and paid. I have no knowledge to support the theory nor do I think you do aside from reading it in a article. Unless you have seen the fighter's contracts? But then again, I don't see a connection between GBP damages and the fighter(s) damages so I'm assuming there probably be more language to support the connection in the lawsuit.

Now the article basically says "spirit of the law" which is not a direct act but rather a indirect act. I have seen many decisions that rule on intent.

It is common knowledge Haymon gives the fighter the largest percentage. It's on the books that he even takes nothing regularly because he is looking to the future. They will not get him on the fighters best interests.

What GBPs suggests is Haymon is working both as manager and promoter. But he's not. He may be manipulating by using one off contracts(he almost assuredly is manipulating) but he is not acting as a promoter. He's smarter than that.

There is no doubt he is into shady business manipulating the system for his benefit. But he's doing it by the rules. That's why the WBO wants the rules changed. They don't want the PBC to get a foothold where Haymon can work without them. There is not one thing noble in this suit.

The fighters are getting more, it's on the books if anyone cares to do the legwork to see. Haymon should not be allowed to become a monopoly but his business model is far better for the fighters than GBPs or TRs or Main Events etcetera. It's a new world plan though and old money has generally ruled in Nevada. Who knows better who to bribe is what we will learn.