Arum says that Pacquiao has had this injury since 2008

[Manos de Piedra]

I just watched the showtime epilogue (I've posted it on the maypac news thread) and no mention of a shoulder injury in the pac corner between rounds like you would expect.

[Julius Rain]

What can be hilarious about Forum's are, poster often think they are being persuaded. No what is being done most time by quality poster is, they try to figure out facts and sort out reliable sources. You are not being persuaded because fanboys are already convince one way or the other. Plus what makes them think so much that their opinion matter? Most fanboy just post their sheep like opinion like they should be pass them around as the only accepted FACT. SMH.

[Ron Swanson]

What can be hilarious about Forum's are, poster often think they are being persuaded. No what is being done most time by quality poster is, they try to figure out facts and sort out reliable sources. You are not being persuaded because fanboys are already convince one way or the other. Plus what makes them think so much that their opinion matter? Most fanboy just post their sheep like opinion like they should be pass them around as the only accepted FACT. SMH.

So with this post you admit in 36 minutes of fighting and 11 minutes between rounds there is not one visual piece of evidence of an injury and also no verbal evidence. It was a nice attempt to dodge but we all saw you dodge. Manny could learn from you

Edit-I need to apologize. I'm being a dick. I just think it's disrespectful to the sport to make excuses. Fighters all through history have gotten in the ring with injuries. It's just part of it.

[pacfan]

What can be hilarious about Forum's are, poster often think they are being persuaded. No what is being done most time by quality poster is, they try to figure out facts and sort out reliable sources. You are not being persuaded because fanboys are already convince one way or the other. Plus what makes them think so much that their opinion matter? Most fanboy just post their sheep like opinion like they should be pass them around as the only accepted FACT. SMH.

Julius my man, that's why I don't engage in discussions much here except upcoming boxing fights, there is simply no rhyme or reason when the fan-boys speak. Nothing wrong about that I guess since this is a fan site, not necessarily an experts' site. The only thing sure here is that the battle line has been drawn and you know exactly what side most of the people belong and they have always proven and will always prove that with their predictable comments - they are very, very consistent when it comes to this. For example, when people say Floyd lost to Castillo, the Floyd-boys will say he was injured and the other side will say that's an excuse. When Manny refuses to take the test, they say he's on PED and us packy boys will say 'no he ain't' but when Floyd is seen in the company of a PED expert, they have their own excuses or arguments. That's how it is and how it will be. And definitely, that is not my cup of tea, I'll rather talk about upcoming fights, no hypothetical ones, and take a stand, right or wrong - no problem with that for me...

[Master]

I think Manny had the injury when he was born.

[AdamGB]

What can be hilarious about Forum's are, poster often think they are being persuaded. No what is being done most time by quality poster is, they try to figure out facts and sort out reliable sources. You are not being persuaded because fanboys are already convince one way or the other. Plus what makes them think so much that their opinion matter? Most fanboy just post their sheep like opinion like they should be pass them around as the only accepted FACT. SMH.

Julius my man, that's why I don't engage in discussions much here except upcoming boxing fights, there is simply no rhyme or reason when the fan-boys speak. Nothing wrong about that I guess since this is a fan site, not necessarily an experts' site. The only thing sure here is that the battle line has been drawn and you know exactly what side most of the people belong and they have always proven and will always prove that with their predictable comments - they are very, very consistent when it comes to this. For example, when people say Floyd lost to Castillo, the Floyd-boys will say he was injured and the other side will say that's an excuse. When Manny refuses to take the test, they say he's on PED and us packy boys will say 'no he ain't' but when Floyd is seen in the company of a PED expert, they have their own excuses or arguments. That's how it is and how it will be. And definitely, that is not my cup of tea, I'll rather talk about upcoming fights, no hypothetical ones, and take a stand, right or wrong - no problem with that for me...

Don't answer this because we both already know the answer, but if Floyd lost - are you telling me that you'd believe that he was injured?

[uptoscratch]

Re-watched the fight tonight as a friend wanted to see it.

Pacquaio didn't look like a fighter with a shoulder injury. He looked like a fighter who was off his PED regimen. He looked like a completely average, 36-year-old, blown-up lightweight.

Floyd looked like a guy who was somewhat surprised and relieved to be collecting $250 million to spar for 12 rounds.