Warning to Joshua

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I don't think they'll be much wrong with Joshua's beard. We've seen him go over in the ams and get up blazing back

There's a difference between being chinny and terrified of being hit. Joshua has a confident spiteful streak in him, something that guys like Price are lacking

I dont think its even so much the punch resistance of Joshua but can he actually fight back over the distance in the pros. Hes getting bulkier muscle wise and thats all going to burn energy.

[El Kabong]

Anthony Joshua looks like the real deal, but he's got to feel more comfortable in the ring, he's so tense in the shoulders and upper body. Stamina will be a bigger issue for him than chin IMO. He just needs to loosen up, relax a bit...not to the point where he's not focused, but just to the point where he can roll with a punch. The stiffer the boxer the more energy they burn....also being stiff doesn't make hitting the target easier at all. When you're stiff your opponent can time you better, they can see your punches coming better. Kevin Johnson is a heck of a boxer, very crafty...not active enough to really scare me for Joshua but he can hit and not get hit good enough that it'll give Joshua a ton of troubles if he just goes gunning for a KO. Kevin Johnson is a fighter you have to incrementally break down and nobody has done that yet.

Best of luck to AJ, I actually don't mind him too much for a British fighter. Hopefully he stays humble and affable.

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Kevin Johnson can test Anthony Joshua says Glenn McCrory | Boxing News | Sky Sports


For all the bulk and muscle he threw this punch totally relaxed and fuck me it was a thumping right hand

KO at 8.24


Johnson rips into AJ

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Kevin Johnson can test Anthony Joshua says Glenn McCrory | Boxing News | Sky Sports


For all the bulk and muscle he threw this punch totally relaxed and fuck me it was a thumping right hand

KO at 8.24


Johnson rips into AJ

Joshua could probably look dangerous for about 6 rounds against someone like Johnson but after that his punches are going to be pushed. If and when Johnson feels Joshua tiring he may change the habit of a lifetime and turn it up. Its an excellent opportunity for Johnson to make himself relevant again and hopefully he tries to take it with both hands.

This is a ridiculous jump in class just like Price with Thompson and Haye with Thompson also.

I think Joshua needed some fighters would come and actually try to fight back and make him work like Brian Minto and Sherman Williams. He hasnt even been made to fight at a pace for the few rounds hes been getting so far. Its very much his stamina and all the weight lifting hes doing is going to be his undoing and after this fight Hearn will say they are going back to the drawing board and review his training and probably change trainers altogether.

He looks stiff and tense now, wait till hes in there with Johnson.

[Primo Carnera]

Joshua could probably look dangerous for about 6 rounds against someone like Johnson but after that his punches are going to be pushed. If and when Johnson feels Joshua tiring he may change the habit of a lifetime and turn it up. Its an excellent opportunity for Johnson to make himself relevant again and hopefully he tries to take it with both hands.

This is a ridiculous jump in class just like Price with Thompson and Haye with Thompson also.

I think Joshua needed some fighters would come and actually try to fight back and make him work like Brian Minto and Sherman Williams. He hasnt even been made to fight at a pace for the few rounds hes been getting so far. Its very much his stamina and all the weight lifting hes doing is going to be his undoing and after this fight Hearn will say they are going back to the drawing board and review his training and probably change trainers altogether.

He looks stiff and tense now, wait till hes in there with Johnson.[/QUOTE]

It is a big step up in class, and I said from the start of his pro career that the most difficult thing with Joshua is how to match him and how quickly to bring him on.
However, I don't think they have any choice because of the way he's smashing people out. If he beats Johnson, there's no going back then, he will be moved along even quicker. He hasn't got the same experience, but he's the same age as Fury, and I think it's time to push him on.
Johnson can give it the big 'un in the ring on Saturday night, but I firmly believe he's going the same way as the rest have so far. Yeah , he may last a round or two more because of his ring knowhow, but I do believe Joshua will KO him in no more than 6 rounds.
Joshua can bang big time and consequently is a threat to anyone. Yeah , he needs to be chin checked, and Yeah with his frame we need to see if Stamina might be an issue similarly to Bruno, but what's he to do ? stand there and get tagged to satisfy everyone's curiousity?
I think within 12-18 months , he's fighting for a World title, and whether he wins it depends on which champ he's challenging.

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Joshua could probably look dangerous for about 6 rounds against someone like Johnson but after that his punches are going to be pushed. If and when Johnson feels Joshua tiring he may change the habit of a lifetime and turn it up. Its an excellent opportunity for Johnson to make himself relevant again and hopefully he tries to take it with both hands.

This is a ridiculous jump in class just like Price with Thompson and Haye with Thompson also.

I think Joshua needed some fighters would come and actually try to fight back and make him work like Brian Minto and Sherman Williams. He hasnt even been made to fight at a pace for the few rounds hes been getting so far. Its very much his stamina and all the weight lifting hes doing is going to be his undoing and after this fight Hearn will say they are going back to the drawing board and review his training and probably change trainers altogether.

He looks stiff and tense now, wait till hes in there with Johnson.

It is a big step up in class, and I said from the start of his pro career that the most difficult thing with Joshua is how to match him and how quickly to bring him on.
However, I don't think they have any choice because of the way he's smashing people out. If he beats Johnson, there's no going back then, he will be moved along even quicker. He hasn't got the same experience, but he's the same age as Fury, and I think it's time to push him on.
Johnson can give it the big 'un in the ring on Saturday night, but I firmly believe he's going the same way as the rest have so far. Yeah , he may last a round or two more because of his ring knowhow, but I do believe Joshua will KO him in no more than 6 rounds.
Joshua can bang big time and consequently is a threat to anyone. Yeah , he needs to be chin checked, and Yeah with his frame we need to see if Stamina might be an issue similarly to Bruno, but what's he to do ? stand there and get tagged to satisfy everyone's curiousity?
I think within 12-18 months , he's fighting for a World title, and whether he wins it depends on which champ he's challenging.[/QUOTE]

Its ok to say he has no more available opponents to push him and they have no choice but lets be fair, they havent put him in with any live opponents who still have ambition. Even a not very skilled or particularly dangerous fighter, just some opponents with only a 1 or 2 losses who will try to make a name for themselves and make him work harder for his stoppages. Hearn should have a list of opponents ready to go and be fighting every month or 3 weeks if they are just going to fall over in the first few rounds.

All of a sudden hes up against someone he wont hit clean who also has power when he decides to use it and stamina. If Joshua doesnt stop him within the first half hes in very deep water.

Hughie Fury has just fought someone who is better than anyone Joshua has faced and potentially more dangerous than Johnson. For all the criticism aimed at the Furys they have progressed Tyson and Hughie gradually with no silly jumps in class. Its just a big risk to go from journeymen who cant get out of the 3rd to someone whos almost certainly going to take him 10 rounds.

[Dark Lord Al]

Johnson win or lose makes me laugh , he has a good chin and that's it , low work rate , light puncher , limited boxing ability.
If he wins it wont be because he is good , it will be because Joshua is a paper tiger.

[Primo Carnera]

[/QUOTE]Its ok to say he has no more available opponents to push him and they have no choice but lets be fair, they havent put him in with any live opponents who still have ambition. Even a not very skilled or particularly dangerous fighter, just some opponents with only a 1 or 2 losses who will try to make a name for themselves and make him work harder for his stoppages. Hearn should have a list of opponents ready to go and be fighting every month or 3 weeks if they are just going to fall over in the first few rounds.

All of a sudden hes up against someone he wont hit clean who also has power when he decides to use it and stamina. If Joshua doesnt stop him within the first half hes in very deep water.

Hughie Fury has just fought someone who is better than anyone Joshua has faced and potentially more dangerous than Johnson. For all the criticism aimed at the Furys they have progressed Tyson and Hughie gradually with no silly jumps in class. Its just a big risk to go from journeymen who cant get out of the 3rd to someone whos almost certainly going to take him 10 rounds.[/QUOTE]




I'm not sure if Rudenko is potentially better than Johnson, and I'm not going to rip Hughie Fury because I think he's coming along great, nothing but positives for him .
The point is Joshua is destroying everybody he gets in with, he's not giving Hearn much choice, and I think he NEEDS THIS . When he won the Olympic title, I didn't rate him that much, I thought he lost against Savon and Cammarelle, but the rapidity of his improvement means he needs bigger and bigger goals.
Ps. I'm not very savvy with these quotes bollocks, but I'm trying not to make each post a mile long!

[Silkeyjoe]

I don't think they'll be much wrong with Joshua's beard. We've seen him go over in the ams and get up blazing back

There's a difference between being chinny and terrified of being hit. Joshua has a confident spiteful streak in him, something that guys like Price are lacking

I dont think its even so much the punch resistance of Joshua but can he actually fight back over the distance in the pros. Hes getting bulkier muscle wise and thats all going to burn energy.

Yes because hes not a fat mess hell struggle to go the distance. Nice logic as always Ross.

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I don't think they'll be much wrong with Joshua's beard. We've seen him go over in the ams and get up blazing back

There's a difference between being chinny and terrified of being hit. Joshua has a confident spiteful streak in him, something that guys like Price are lacking

I dont think its even so much the punch resistance of Joshua but can he actually fight back over the distance in the pros. Hes getting bulkier muscle wise and thats all going to burn energy.

Yes because hes not a fat mess hell struggle to go the distance. Nice logic as always Ross.

Look at his weights. The facts.

Bakhtov 236
Sprott 240
Gavern 245
Love 248

Hes progressively getting heavier muscled, hes put 12lb on over the last 7 months because his trainer is obviously making him or allowing him to continue to body build. Hes not that young that his body is still developing, hes purposefully putting muscle on for some reason and this will contribute to him tiring over the distance as well as the poor opposition not preparing him or putting him under pressure.

Hes going the same way Haye did going in the Carl Thompson fight.