One reason I brought this thread up is it was just the 70th anniversary of ve day. I was reading one article about the incendiary bombing the allies did on Hamburg alone. Fourty thousand people died, most being of course civilians, and that was Hamburg alone. Terrible thing war is, bad enough soldier killing soldier but WW 2 in particular had gutrenching civilian deaths. More civilians died in the Allied bombing of Germany than Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. Crazy shit.


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