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    Default Re: Not convinced GGG beats Froch or Ward

    .....fight.

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    Default Re: Not convinced GGG beats Froch or Ward

    I'm surprised max didn't ask about froch in the post fight interview. We know canelo and Cotto are due to meet in September so they are out the picture this year. Ward doesn't fight full stop. Now chavez is gone then triple g and Froch are both free for a big fight next.

    I agree with the thread starter that carl might've seen something that will convince him to take it & I also agree that with 1 eye on retirement he will struggle in a fight with Golovkin

    Munroe did better than I thought but I didn't know much about him. Golovkin took afew shots, nothing big like kellerman was suggesting but enough to hint that Golovkin is becoming stale at this level & a super fight is overdue

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    Default Re: Not convinced GGG beats Froch or Ward

    GGG beats any age Froch , Froch is wide open to punches he would be stopped with ease.
    Ward is an interesting fight , but I would put my money on GGG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    GGG beats any age Froch , Froch is wide open to punches he would be stopped with ease.
    Ward is an interesting fight , but I would put my money on GGG.
    They don't seem to agree because even though he's been talking about moving up for various opponents since 2012 every time Ward is mentioned it's "well, umm, we have to clean out 160". Ward even said "watch how they change their tune(about anyone from 154-175) when I call them out" and he was spot on that they changed their tune immediately.

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    Default Re: Not convinced GGG beats Froch or Ward

    I think GGG loses badly to ward. From what I saw last night he is easily out boxed even Floyd a 154 will out box him. Froch is tough and strong also alot bigger so I see a hard fight for GGG where he takes a beating but then again Froch is wide open for GGGs power.
    GGG and team will avoid Ward like the plague.
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    I honesty doubt GGG beats any super middleweight worth a damn - including Arthur Abraham.
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    Default Re: Not convinced GGG beats Froch or Ward

    Froch should be itching to fight Ward, not GGG.
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    Primo Carnera,

    I agree with you, seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
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    I agree with you, seriously.
    Nice one, thank you.

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    GGG could NOT get a fight with Sergio AM I RIGHT,! Sergio was supposed to be the man, but
    he wanted nothing to do with GGG did he,! why because he would have lost simple.
    What more can a fighter do than win, which GGG has done there is no pleasing some people,
    he beat Monroe up but in some peoples eyes, he looks vulnerable sorry boy's what a crock of
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    Personally I think ggg is a small middle wight so moving up a weight will be daft especially when the big money fights are lower down , don't think his next will be a big name but it will be at middleweight again, I'm hoping the Saul alverez or cotto fight comes off tho but recon cotto will b fighting floyd in September

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colinc View Post
    Personally I think ggg is a small middle wight so moving up a weight will be daft especially when the big money fights are lower down , don't think his next will be a big name but it will be at middleweight again, I'm hoping the Saul alverez or cotto fight comes off tho but recon cotto will b fighting floyd in September
    I agree. I guess I can only call it a hunch but I just see GGG moving up in weight as a something he should avoid doing.

    I think going up against bigger guys makes him less effective.
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    He's 33 now. But this "small middleweight" talk needs to end. Pac is a small welter, he walks around at the limit. Floyd is a small welter, he walks around a couple pounds above the limit. That is what someone small for the weight does. Golovkin doesn't walk around close to 160. Golovkin walks around only a couple pounds lighter than Ward. He enters the ring only a couple pounds lighter than Ward. At his 30 day weigh in(which gives you a more accurate gauge of true size than anything) this "small middleweight" weighed 3 pounds more than the "big middleweight" Martin Murray. Someone please explain how GGG can be small yet bigger than a man who is big? I could use a laugh. When the right opponent is mentioned GGG has been willing to move up for years. Don't be confused into believing the easy Chavez was the first because he wasn't. As long as it's an easy guy they are willing. GGG fought at a higher weight than he does now 13 years ago! There is absolutely no reason to call him small. At least nothing to do with his size anyway.

    I don't think for a second GGG is scared. But people need to open their eyes. GGG already has his next fight scheduled, against the always dangerous TBA in September. They will plug in whoever because there is no time to search out the best opponent. They've been running this scam for years and they are making good money doing it. And people will explain why this next guy is a good opponent since he is busy. But look at his opponents. Go back a ways and you will see over the hill, never were types, almost types, guys that aren't even in real boxing anymore, undersized, only like 5 guys with a KO % above 50%, and Geale. He is 33, he has been champion for years. He needs a challenge!!! He could beat up a child and I'm sure it would be a vicious KO but it wouldn't be sport. Let the man fight someone on his level!! Stop excusing him fighting fighters he is far superior too.

    And to add to the point his manager said yesterday "the fans want to see a Ward fight but it would have to be PPV to pay Ward". He has done absolutely no negotiating with Ward to know what Ward would want. So don't let him Arum you people, they are planting false flags. They don't even want to negotiate!!!

    I'm not saying he has to fight Ward. But don't let this man tell you he knows the fans want it and give you an excuse he has absolutely no knowledge of. And don't support that excuse with more excuses. Call for the fight, GGG is up for it. And if it can't be made it can't be made. But don't support two great fighters not fighting over excuses. This sport has become far too full of excuses.

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    Also, the WBC has approved a step asside of the mandatory. As we knew they would. If Cotto/Canelo winner agrees to fight GGG next. So it's all in a neat little bow for Cotto/Canelo. Cotto can fight Canelo then retire. Canelo can fight Cotto and if he wins vacate the belts and go back to Jr Middle(or 155). GGG can take an easy fight in September then fight whoever for the lineal title in early 2016. Talk of "I will fight Ward after Cotto and Canelo" is just talk. It's all going how it always was going to go and GGG wasn't ever going to fight Canelo or Cotto. But we all knew that, did GGG? Millions of dollars changing hands, do you believe we knew and one of the key pieces in this scheme didn't know?

    And will Geale get a fair shake or is this like DLH/Sturm and all Cotto has to do is finish on his feet to preserve all that Canelo/Cotto money?

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    Default Re: Not convinced GGG beats Froch or Ward

    he wouldnt beat foch but he would beat ward and floyd
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