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    Default Re: Are you okay with Brook/Rios August 8th?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    If your plan is to fight regular then Rios is a bloody good opponent. Who else is there?

    Floyd/Pac not an option.
    Khan bottled it.
    Thurman/Bradley not an option (have fights lined up)
    Marquez don't know what he's doing.
    Maidana?
    To me Rios isn't even top 10 at WW. But if being busy against worthless opponents is good enough for you all have at it I suppose. I just wondered if it was good enough for you all. Froch won me over, I think Brook is more talented, but with weak opponents like they are lining up(and frankly his entire career is littered with mediocre opposition compared to his talent) I won't be getting on board with Brook. I'll stop asking that he step up as it seems his fans are happy with being an ABC title holder. If I was a fan I would be highly highly highly disappointed, but I'm not so why should I root for him to try for greatness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    If your plan is to fight regular then Rios is a bloody good opponent. Who else is there?

    Floyd/Pac not an option.
    Khan bottled it.
    Thurman/Bradley not an option (have fights lined up)
    Marquez don't know what he's
    doing.

    Maidana?
    To me Rios isn't even top 10 at WW. But if being busy against worthless opponents is good enough for you
    all have at it I suppose. I just
    wondered if it was good enough for you all. Froch won me over, I think Brook is more talented, but with weak opponents like they are lining up(and frankly his entire career is littered with mediocre opposition
    compared to his talent) I won't be
    getting on board with Brook. I'll stop asking that he step up as it seems his fans are happy with being an ABC title holder. If I was a fan I would be highly highly highly disappointed, but I'm not so why
    should I root for him to try for
    greatness?
    You make some fair points, but bearing in mind a. The fight isn't done yet. And b. Who is available?
    Who would you have matched him with.
    I can't say it's a good matchup, but then again neither is Thurman v Collazo or Khan v Algieri.
    The fact is that until Floyd and Pac are gone, this is what we have to put up with.

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    Default Re: Are you okay with Brook/Rios August 8th?

    Name who he should be fighting in August then?
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    Default Re: Are you okay with Brook/Rios August 8th?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Name who he should be fighting in August then?
    If he will wait a month the list of possible opponents is huge. Right now, before he's even had this soft touch, there is no reason to line up another soft touch.

    To clarify between the top 10 of 154, 147, and 140 only 6 guys are tied up. And if he waited only 1 month only Thurman and Herrera would be tied up. Only 2 more weeks and not one fighter from the top 10 of 154, 147, and 140 would be tied up. Guys not being available is only an excuse if you rush. If you actually want big fights you aren't busy, you are looking for big fights.
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    Default Re: Are you okay with Brook/Rios August 8th?

    He should scrap this date (which isn't even official) to wait and see what everyone else does?

    Name the fighters that he could face in September then?
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    Default Re: Are you okay with Brook/Rios August 8th?

    see my edit of the previous, literally every fighter is available. Every single fighter

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    Default Re: Are you okay with Brook/Rios August 8th?

    Name who you want him to fight?
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    Default Re: Are you okay with Brook/Rios August 8th?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    see my edit of the previous, literally every fighter is available. Every single fighter

    Why are they not making the fight then? That Rios fight is far from done and besides, he's a new champ and has a right to milk it a bit just like all those other clams do. Gavin is his optional because he just beat Jojo who was his mandatory and Kell took him anyway. That freed up Gavin as an optional. After Gavin his mandatory will be Khan. So if Khan remains delusional about getting the Floyd fight and decides not to execute that right then that would make Gavin his mandatory which I'm assuming he will have already beat thereby giving Brook another optional hence Rios. Thurman has Collazo up. Are they ever going to give him a prime welter?

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    How many times do I have to say "anyone", Rios isn't good. He will make Brook work beating Rios up but at no point will he offer any qualities to trouble Brooke. If I want to watch Brook beat someone up I can watch his sparring. I want to see Brook against a good fighter. Rios is not a good welterweight. Pick Bradley, try Khan again after he doesn't get the Mayweather fight, he'll try for a Mayweather fight, fight Broner if Broner were to beat Porter, maybe Garcia is finally coming up, Ali, literally anyone in the top 10 is better than Rios and a few not in the top 10 at least offer some troubles. Rios is just a punching bag. The Gavin fight is more interesting than Rios.

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    Default Re: Are you okay with Brook/Rios August 8th?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    How many times do I have to say "anyone", Rios isn't good. He will make Brook work beating Rios up but at no point will he offer any qualities to trouble Brooke. If I want to watch Brook beat someone up I can watch his sparring. I want to see Brook against a good fighter. Rios is not a good welterweight. Pick Bradley, try Khan again after he doesn't get the Mayweather fight, he'll try for a Mayweather fight, fight Broner if Broner were to beat Porter, maybe Garcia is finally coming up, Ali, literally anyone in the top 10 is better than Rios and a few not in the top 10 at least offer some troubles. Rios is just a punching bag. The Gavin fight is more interesting than Rios.
    Or you could just watch Sky Sports 1 on Saturday when he steps in with Funtime Frankie

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    I really don't understand fans anymore. All anyone wants to argue is why nobody should fight anyone good, like ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    I really don't understand fans anymore. All anyone wants to argue is why nobody should fight anyone good, like ever.
    It's not arguing about why they should fight anyone good. I agree that I don't see the need to fight in August, but I don't think there'll be any better options in September.
    Garcia is a LWW
    Broner won't be available and is a LWW
    Thurman is doing no differently to Brook
    Khan doesn't want any of Brook or any boxer who can dig.
    Bradley , the last I heard he was talking of going to LMW. Even if he stays at WW, would he come to England?
    Marquez is doing a bit of a Froch at the minute..... Will he won't he?
    I said before, the only way these guys are getting in the ring with each other is with a super 6 style comp.

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    Default Re: Are you okay with Brook/Rios August 8th?

    Seems like you need to take your own advice, Ron. Don't rush, have a little patience. Believe it or not boxing is a business. Fighter's are trying to make money.

    Brook's promoter Eddie Hearn has mentioned Rios as a possible opponent for months, it's been no secret. It sells on both sides of the pond - which is all that matters in this game.

    Be great if us fans could make the fights. Poor old Floyd certainly wouldn't be rolling around in hundreds of millions though, poor fucker would be eating through a straw.
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    Default Re: Are you okay with Brook/Rios August 8th?

    I'm happy with it, cracking fight
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    Default Re: Are you okay with Brook/Rios August 8th?

    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    If your plan is to fight regular then Rios is a bloody good opponent. Who else is there?

    Floyd/Pac not an option.
    Khan bottled it.
    Thurman/Bradley not an option (have fights lined up)
    Marquez don't know what he's
    doing.

    Maidana?
    To me Rios isn't even top 10 at WW. But if being busy against worthless opponents is good enough for you
    all have at it I suppose. I just
    wondered if it was good enough for you all. Froch won me over, I think Brook is more talented, but with weak opponents like they are lining up(and frankly his entire career is littered with mediocre opposition
    compared to his talent) I won't be
    getting on board with Brook. I'll stop asking that he step up as it seems his fans are happy with being an ABC title holder. If I was a fan I would be highly highly highly disappointed, but I'm not so why
    should I root for him to try for
    greatness?
    You make some fair points, but bearing in mind a. The fight isn't done yet. And b. Who is available?
    Who would you have matched him with.
    I can't say it's a good matchup, but then again neither is Thurman v Collazo or Khan v Algieri.
    The fact is that until Floyd and Pac are gone, this is what we have to put up with.
    I guess I just can't see anyone as being worse. Rios was a good lightweight, not great. And his style and abilities favored him there where he was big. Now he doesn't have size so his lack of craft and concussive power means all he can do is make a guy work hard beating him up. I'm not sure who he should fight but he hasn't even fought Gavin yet so what is the rush? In a month many more guys will be available, far better guys than Rios. I just see Brook and Thurman as the future(along with TC and Spence) and both seem to be hurting their careers more than helping them.

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