'88 Tyson DESTROYS '66 Ali

[Gandalf]

I agree. Tyson would be almost as quick, but far more powerful. Proably a mid round Tyson stoppage win. An older, bigger, wiser Ali would have had a better chance.

[Dark Lord Al]

I agree. Tyson would be almost as quick, but far more powerful. Proably a mid round Tyson stoppage win. An older, bigger, wiser Ali would have had a better chance.

Well many bigger HW'S would have given Clay problems , remember Norton had a glass jaw and he ploughed forward throwing punches all night.
Yes the Clay who fought Liston was a super mover , however I don't buy he could beat any HW of any era , that just plain stupid.

[SugarBoxing]

Well guys, the conditions are very obscure.

Lets state scenarios:

1. Teleport Tyson from Spinks fight and place him againt Ali in Zora Foo..whatever fight, I mean before he was suspended from boxing.

I go for Tyson 12 D

2. Teleport Tyson from Spinks fight and place him againt Ali in Manila / Zaire fight, I mean after his comeback

I go for Ali winning 15 D or TKO

3. However, if they engage in trash talking before the fight, some build up over half a year, so Ali could study him, get into Tyson's head, then I think Ali would win, maybe even by KO, TKO

[Bill Paxtom]

~ Mike Tyson '1988' vs. Cassius Clay '1966' ~

Computer Results .............. Mike Tyson by 15-Round Decision

Mike Tyson's effective aggression over the first 9-Rounds builds up a big points lead.

Cassius Clay absorbed a lot of punishment, and was 'stunned' several times throughout
the early going.

As Mike Tyson slowed his pace, Cassius Clay was able to take advantage of his longer
reach, and scored with long-range jabs over the last 'third' of the bout to make the fight
look closer on the Scorecards.

Mike Tyson continued to move forward throughout the entire bout.

Cassius Clay just did not have the fire-power to slow Mike Tyson down, as the shorter
'1988' Mike Tyson was always 'dipping-and-bobbing' while coming forward.

[AdamGB]

Ali's movement would have helped.

Imagine him fighting Marciano... Tyson would be far too strong, far too fast and Marciano plodding forward would absorb the full force of him. It would be like driving a beat up station wagon into an on coming freight train.

[SugarBoxing]

Ali's movement would have helped.

Imagine him fighting Marciano... Tyson would be far too strong, far too fast and Marciano plodding forward would absorb the full force of him. It would be like driving a beat up station wagon into an on coming freight train.

Depends on the ring size, when Ali fought Marciano in the exhibition fight/sparring, it was almost a phonebooth

SRL fought harlger in the largest ring possible just to give you the feel how it is important, couple feet off and SRL could have been KO'd

Also, watch Hopkins vs Glen Johnson, very small ring

[Bill Paxtom]

* Mike Tyson 'Model 1988' ......... Age 22

* Cassius Clay 'Model 1966' ....... Age 24
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Mae Britt ............. "What do you think Sammy. Does that 'Clay' guy have a chance."

Sammy Davis Jr. ... "No way my Swedish Bride. That Tyson kid is made of Iron, and he 'bites' like me."

[AdamGB]

Ali's movement would have helped.

Imagine him fighting Marciano... Tyson would be far too strong, far too fast and Marciano plodding forward would absorb the full force of him. It would be like driving a beat up station wagon into an on coming freight train.

Depends on the ring size, when Ali fought Marciano in the exhibition fight/sparring, it was almost a phonebooth

SRL fought harlger in the largest ring possible just to give you the feel how it is important, couple feet off and SRL could have been KO'd

Also, watch Hopkins vs Glen Johnson, very small ring

Tyson and Marciano could fight in a football pitch, Marciano marches right in either way.

[Ron Swanson]

i sure hope this is a joke I don't get or this thread is embarrassing