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    Floyd Patterson had the same style and he was extremely fast as well....how'd that work out?
    Pshh now I know you ain't comparing Floyd Patterson and prime Tyson.

    Kevin Rooney had the same style too. Mike made that shit work like no one else... come on man!
    Yeah and who basically ended Rooney's career? Arguello, a lanky fighter that could control distance. Ali didn't have the pop of Arguello, but he had length and speed as well as footwork.



    Power punchers have to set their feet....Tyson wouldn't have been able to get those feet set vs Ali, I'm sorry man but Tyson was human even in 1988.

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    Interesting watch for you guys out there just to add to the discussion


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    At 4:09 of the video "Iron" Mike Tyson gives his honest take on the hypothetical Ali vs Tyson matchup. Maybe Mike is just paying respects, but either way he has very good things to say about Ali and even gets a little choked up talking about how great Ali was in the ring.


    So there you have it straight from the horse's mouth "I can't beat that man, hell fuckin no, no fuckin way"

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    At 4:09 of the video "Iron" Mike Tyson gives his honest take on the hypothetical Ali vs Tyson matchup. Maybe Mike is just paying respects, but either way he has very good things to say about Ali and even gets a little choked up talking about how great Ali was in the ring.


    So there you have it straight from the horse's mouth "I can't beat that man, hell fuckin no, no fuckin way"
    Ali had already said on the arseno hall show that he was sure Tyson would knock him out. or at least something to that effect.

    I think they're just respectful of each other in different ways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post

    At 4:09 of the video "Iron" Mike Tyson gives his honest take on the hypothetical Ali vs Tyson matchup. Maybe Mike is just paying respects, but either way he has very good things to say about Ali and even gets a little choked up talking about how great Ali was in the ring.


    So there you have it straight from the horse's mouth "I can't beat that man, hell fuckin no, no fuckin way"
    Doesn't prove anything. Mike has always gone out of his way to (at least appear to) be respectful and humble when talking about the greats that came before him.

    He said prime Holmes would have whipped him. He said his punching power is nothing compared to guys like Shavers and Holmes. At the end of the day he was brought up by Cus as a boxing nerd and he has the same respect for these guys as we do.
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    I'll just leave this here. It says more than typed words ever could.

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    I'll just leave this here. It says more than typed words ever could.

    MIKE TYSON #1

    I find it hilarious that the rabid Tyson fans believe that the ONLY person that could ever beat Mike Tyson is ....Mike Tyson

    Tyson didn't get beat by Buster Douglas....Tyson beat Tyson
    Tyson didn't get beat by Evander Holyfield....Tyson was past his prime/he didn't train
    Tyson didn't get beat by Lennox Lewis....Tyson was past his prime
    Tyson was well past his prime by the time Williams and McBride got to him (which I will agree with, but Jesus when did Tyson lose a fight because the other fighter was better)

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    Well he was passed his prime when he fought Holyfield (just like Ali was passed his prime after he came back from his ban), and certainly well passed his prime when he fought Lewis.

    I think there are a guys in history who would have had a decent to real good chance of beating prime Tyson (Lennox included), I just don't think Ali's stick and move style was the one to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
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    Floyd Patterson had the same style and he was extremely fast as well....how'd that work out?
    Pshh now I know you ain't comparing Floyd Patterson and prime Tyson.

    Kevin Rooney had the same style too. Mike made that shit work like no one else... come on man!

    Power punchers have to set their feet....Tyson wouldn't have been able to get those feet set vs Ali, I'm sorry man but Tyson was human even in 1988.


    Tyson was one of those rare individuals (back in late 80's) who could knock your head into the 10th row with a massive hook that would connect while both feet were off the ground. So while conventional wisdom says power punchers have to set their feet.... Tyson was a whole 'nother animal back then. Also agree with Bean about please not comparing Patterson to Tyson in any shape or form. No way.... no how. Tyson was faster.... and logarithmically more powerful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Floyd Patterson had the same style and he was extremely fast as well....how'd that work out?
    Pshh now I know you ain't comparing Floyd Patterson and prime Tyson.

    Kevin Rooney had the same style too. Mike made that shit work like no one else... come on man!

    Power punchers have to set their feet....Tyson wouldn't have been able to get those feet set vs Ali, I'm sorry man but Tyson was human even in 1988.


    Tyson was one of those rare individuals (back in late 80's) who could knock your head into the 10th row with a massive hook that would connect while both feet were off the ground. So while conventional wisdom says power punchers have to set their feet.... Tyson was a whole 'nother animal back then. Also agree with Bean about please not comparing Patterson to Tyson in any shape or form. No way.... no how. Tyson was faster.... and logarithmically more powerful.
    I agree, Tyson was great at getting in on guys. Quick feet, jabbed his way in, and lunged in with fast punches if he had to. I mean you look at a guy like Liston... he was moving in slow motion compared to Tyson. Mike was just a different beast, if Ali was going to beat him he was going to have to go through hell to do it. There's no way Ali dances around Mike for 12-15 rounds like he's tiptoeing through the tulips, that just wouldn't happen.
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