Can we safely say that Hunter sucks as a trainer?

[beenKOed]

My complaint about the Hunters is more about their fight plans. Barry Hunter had Peterson giving away half the fight to Garcia, and Virgil Hunter was surprised Algieri came out aggressively against Khan.

Trainers are supposed to be the brains, the guys with foresight who are on top of things. I'm not seeing that form the Hunters, lately.
If I'm wrong, tell me.

[Ron Swanson]

My complaint about the Hunters is more about their fight plans. Barry Hunter had Peterson giving away half the fight to Garcia, and Virgil Hunter was surprised Algieri came out aggressively against Khan.

Trainers are supposed to be the brains, the guys with foresight who are on top of things. I'm not seeing that form the Hunters, lately.
If I'm wrong, tell me.

That's a hell of a lot more reasonable than those that expect Hunter to turn a very flawed fighter into a perfect fighter.

[Fenster]

Khan said he was flat in the fight because he was over trained, needs to get back his natural instinct and that Hunter is trying to turn him into Andre Ward which doesn't suit him. (That last part is blatantly obvious)

Wonder how much longer they'll be together? Goodnight vienna.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Khan said he was flat in the fight because he was over trained, needs to get back his natural instinct and that Hunter is trying to turn him into Andre Ward which doesn't suit him. (That last part is blatantly obvious)

Wonder how much longer they'll be together? Goodnight vienna.

I thought he looked slower than normal. Against Alexander he was lightening quick but looked sluggish by comparison.

[Fenster]

Yeah he did look slower but I credited that to Algieri, who looks pretty swift himself. Maybe Khan did have an off night though due to leaving it in the gym

[beenKOed]

Yeah he did look slower but I credited that to Algieri, who looks pretty swift himself. Maybe Khan did have an off night though due to leaving it in the gym

Damn, I hate that excuse! 'I trained too hard or too long and that's why I lost the fight.' That even makes Hunter look worse, and it doesn't do much for Khan's rep either. After 34 pro fights (and how many amateur?) Khan doesn't know when he's over doing it in the gym? Maybe the bottle tricks pushed him over the edge, or maybe he spent too much time battering defenseless bottles instead of training. I know fighters can and do over train, but why do we hear 'Best Camp Ever' before the fight and 'I Over Trained' after a poor performance?
JDJ and Algieri made Hunter and Khan look bad, is what happened, with a better fight plan. Might have pulled it off if Hunter had lost his head. JDJ gets some points, Hunter drops some no way to get around it, in my opinion.

[SlimTrae]

Yeah he did look slower but I credited that to Algieri, who looks pretty swift himself. Maybe Khan did have an off night though due to leaving it in the gym

Damn, I hate that excuse! 'I trained too hard or too long and that's why I lost the fight.' That even makes Hunter look worse, and it doesn't do much for Khan's rep either. After 34 pro fights (and how many amateur?) Khan doesn't know when he's over doing it in the gym? Maybe the bottle tricks pushed him over the edge, or maybe he spent too much time battering defenseless bottles instead of training. I know fighters can and do over train, but why do we hear 'Best Camp Ever' before the fight and 'I Over Trained' after a poor performance?
JDJ and Algieri made Hunter and Khan look bad, is what happened, with a better fight plan. Might have pulled it off if Hunter had lost his head. JDJ gets some points, Hunter drops some no way to get around it, in my opinion.

I agree. Chad Dawson went through trainer after trainer making the same excuse. I (think) John David Jackson got thrown under the bus when Allen Green lost to Andre Ward.
Claimed he was over trained.
And was fighting in the wrong weight class.