"Ali hate"..... what's the point??

[Bill Paxtom]

Eh he beat everyone from his era really and was champ for like ever i mean he has a claim to the greatest as much as everyone else does. Paxton i take it your old so let me ask you this how do you know Ali did not try to go into the army before hand and its all made up. Also he served his time and chose what he believed not like the war was just one and it was such a great thing to do. Ali had flaws but shit in your 20's how smart were you bet you did some dumb shit and said some as well. Ali i think did what he thought was right man has been a Muslim for how long now not like it was just some fade he had. The man had some faults but I think if you ask him now he might take back some of shit he said about the race thing even if he did not people shit on him because he was black in 1960's so it not like he does not have a reason for it.

No, I'm not old. Just a boxing Historian.

Follow the 'ball'. The Louisville Group {of 11 Kentucky businessman} had a lot
of money 'invested' in their horse > 'Cassius Clay'.

They had 'struck' a deal with the United States Selective Service to get Cassius
an 'easy ride', and had most the details worked out.

Then Cassius got hooked up with the N.O.I. and he 'fucked' everything up.

Remember, in November 1964 > Vietnam was not a 'fucking mess' yet.
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How can a man who beats his 'fists' on another man, and tries to hurt him, be
against a little old 'conflict' in Southeast Asia.

"If Cassius needs a place to hide. I am willing to help. I have the perfect spot
for him to slide in to. It's right behind '2' mountains."

Jayne Mansfield

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Jane Mansfield, March 8, 1971:

"Muhammad turned to clay in that 15th round. Smokin' Joe can now have my candy. He sure blew the shit out of Clay. I think Clay was permanently damaged after Joe got through with him tonight. Now me and Joe are goin' dancing all night. Plus, Clay is too 'preoccupied' with that little ~slut~ Veronica."

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[Master]

[Bill Paxtom]

June 3, 1965

Another brilliant statement by the 'Great Sportsman'.

"I don't want to be shipped across the Atlantic Ocean to fight those 'Japs' in Vietnam."

[brocktonblockbust]

June 3, 1965

Another brilliant statement by the 'Great Sportsman'.

"I don't want to be shipped across the Atlantic Ocean to fight those 'Japs' in Vietnam."

Yeah he was some genius, wasn't he bwwwOOOOOOOOOOOOOWAWAWAWA

The US-Army tested his IQ and the result was 78.

After scoring a 78 on a 1964 Army IQ test -- "I said I was the greatest, not the smartest" -- Ali was classified 1-Y: "Not qualified under current standards for service in the armed forces."

78............borderline retardation

[Master]

What he lacked academically he more than made up for it in the ring.

[brocktonblockbust]

He was lightning fast and had superb reflexes and maybe the Greatest Chin of All Times. Awesome left jab, nice sharp straight right, and a stinging left hook.

On the negative side, he held and grabbed and pulled excessively, had absolutely ZERO body attack, got atleast 4 GIFT decisions, acted despicably towards many of his fellow black Americans, and got hit way too much to the skull and kidneys, had too much blood in his urine for weeks after several of his fights, contused kidneys, due to Rope A Dope nonsense, etc.

[Beanflicker]

Yeah he was some genius, wasn't he bwwwOOOOOOOOOOOOOWAWAWAWA

The US-Army tested his IQ and the result was 78.

After scoring a 78 on a 1964 Army IQ test -- "I said I was the greatest, not the smartest" -- Ali was classified 1-Y: "Not qualified under current standards for service in the armed forces."

78............borderline retardation

That's another strike against Ali IMO. Ali probably wasn't the brightest guy in terms of academics but no way was he borderline retard... he intentionally bombed the test because he didn't want to go to war.

Ali didn't give a fuck about speaking out against the "unjust" war until he was FORCED to go, then all of a sudden he was a big anti-war guy.

He shouldn't get credit for being a crusader for religious and personal freedom. He did it out of self preservation.

[Bill Paxtom]

Beanflicker,

A few points.

1} Did Cassius Clay, 'purposely' bomb the test. ...... Most Likely.

2} Did the United States Selective Service know that Cassius 'pulled a tank job'...... Yes

3} Nobody could be that 'stupid' to fail that Elementary School type test.

4} Was Cassius Clay going to war. .......... 'NO'

5} Cassius Clay would have been stationed 'ridiculously' so far away from a Battlefield, it's funny.
Most likely a supply-base in the South Pacific {Hawaii or Guam}.

6} In other words, safe in the 'rear'.

Very True,

Cassius Clay never heard of Vietnam until he was at the end of his 'deferments'. Suddenly he
became a 'crusader'.

Like I said earlier,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the guy was 'a fraud'.