Miguel Cotto -- Worst Middleweight Champ Ever?

[ruthless rocco]

Dude has had the belt for a year and still hasn't fought at middleweight! What a pussy!

[Dark Lord Al]

Darren Barker , Daniel Geale , both are far worse than Cotto , at least Cotto is a boxing warrior.

[ElTerribleMorales]

hahahahahahahaha funny shit, there's a long list of fighters who are far ahead of him

[Master]

There have been worse champions and Cotto has beaten the champion and stopped a former champion which is better than a lot of other champions at the weight have ever done.

[Dark Lord Al]

Apart from Violent Demise I fail to understand why anyone doesn't like Cotto , he has always been entertaining win lose or draw.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Apart from Violent Demise I fail to understand why anyone doesn't like Cotto , he has always been entertaining win lose or draw.

and has consistently fought the best, he himself admitted that he's not a real middleweight and beat up a guy who was about 15 lbs bigger than him last night like if he was a punk, openly said Canelo is his next fight and that fight will probably be at Jr. Middleweight, he picked up the middleweight title for history, unlike other fighters he's always given the fans what they want and the fights that they want, some just get pissy if they don't get it right away but well those are the ones that only tuned in to watch May vs Pac

[Silkeyjoe]

Apart from Violent Demise I fail to understand why anyone doesn't like Cotto , he has always been entertaining win lose or draw.

His "Im the princess attiute" for one.

[Beanz]

Darren Barker , Daniel Geale , both are far worse than Cotto , at least Cotto is a boxing warrior.

Boxing Warrior ? The guy is a prima donna. First he picks a fight with a disabled pensioner with dodgier knees than Mary Millington, and then he asks Geale to chop one of his limbs off, before he is willing to give him a shot at the middleweight title. He admits openly that he has no interest in ever respecting the rules of boxing, and then after virtually filling his shorts at the mention of Golovkin, he makes it quite clear that his next fight as middle weight champ, will again not be against a middle weight, because he has no interest in fighting anyone at middle weight.

What a warrior.

[Spicoli]

I'll be totally straight. I liked Cotto. His cred has been established long ago. But I've lost bookoo respect for him and frankly while he may be more skilled than tons of guys claiming a middle strap..he doesn't measure up to any of them in the bigger picture. Because..you have to BE a middleweight and honor the range as well as your opposition to even be considered. Cotto is an imposter and is being allowed to lie to the fans. Its a farce and a con job. He should vacate the title today and stop acting like a brat.

[greynotsoold]

You don't have to weigh 160 to be a middle; it is 'up to' 160. Ray Robinson was 151, I believe, when he won it the first time. Henry Armstrong was in the 140s when he challenged for it, and he won the 147 title at 136.
Telling a guy to weigh 157 to fight for the title is probably wrong. But Geale didn't have to agree to it and he could have handled his weight differently once he did. If I was managing Cotto, I would honor the 160 limit but every contract would enforce a rehydration limit of 165.
A guy weighing 160 for one minute the day before the fight and the getting in the ring at 172 or more is the real insult to the sport.

[Beanflicker]

You don't have to weigh 160 to be a middle; it is 'up to' 160. Ray Robinson was 151, I believe, when he won it the first time. Henry Armstrong was in the 140s when he challenged for it, and he won the 147 title at 136.
Telling a guy to weigh 157 to fight for the title is probably wrong. But Geale didn't have to agree to it and he could have handled his weight differently once he did. If I was managing Cotto, I would honor the 160 limit but every contract would enforce a rehydration limit of 165.
A guy weighing 160 for one minute the day before the fight and the getting in the ring at 172 or more is the real insult to the sport.

Nobody ever complained about Cotto not weighing 160.

And weight cutting is not the embarrassment. EVERYONE cuts weight. Not everyone gets to have their own special weight class and win/defend belts without ever having fought at that weight.

[Spicoli]

You don't have to weigh 160 to be a middle; it is 'up to' 160. Ray Robinson was 151, I believe, when he won it the first time. Henry Armstrong was in the 140s when he challenged for it, and he won the 147 title at 136.
Telling a guy to weigh 157 to fight for the title is probably wrong. But Geale didn't have to agree to it and he could have handled his weight differently once he did. If I was managing Cotto, I would honor the 160 limit but every contract would enforce a rehydration limit of 165.
A guy weighing 160 for one minute the day before the fight and the getting in the ring at 172 or more is the real insult to the sport.

The rehydration as a whole is off the chart today with guys putting on anywhere from 10 to 21 lbs in many cases. But Geale had no obligation to be reweighed...and Cotto would not even get back on the scale so his at the bell weight was not known. Cotto double dipped, taking the limit off the top..no 160..and he didn't even come in at minimum 154 himself. To me, he lost the legitimacy of lineal middle as he will even defend there. I do believe Robinson was above minimum for 1st middle strap with Lamotta and had no stipulations, he was outweighed in all of there fights up to the point of 15 lbs once if I'm not mistaken? The thing with Robinson was he knew and acted like he was indeed that much better in that series. No shenanigans or gimmicks..lets just have a fight!

[Dark Lord Al]

Darren Barker , Daniel Geale , both are far worse than Cotto , at least Cotto is a boxing warrior.

Boxing Warrior ? The guy is a prima donna. First he picks a fight with a disabled pensioner with dodgier knees than Mary Millington, and then he asks Geale to chop one of his limbs off, before he is willing to give him a shot at the middleweight title. He admits openly that he has no interest in ever respecting the rules of boxing, and then after virtually filling his shorts at the mention of Golovkin, he makes it quite clear that his next fight as middle weight champ, will again not be against a middle weight, because he has no interest in fighting anyone at middle weight.

What a warrior.

In case you didn't realise he fought many times before he was a MW , and earned his tag as a warrior.

[Primo Carnera]

Darren Barker , Daniel Geale , both are far worse than Cotto , at least Cotto is a boxing warrior.

Boxing Warrior ? The guy is a prima donna. First he picks a fight with a disabled pensioner with dodgier knees than Mary Millington, and then he asks Geale to chop one of his limbs off, before he is willing to give him a shot at the middleweight title. He admits openly that he has no interest in ever respecting the rules of boxing, and then after virtually filling his shorts at the mention of Golovkin, he makes it quite clear that his next fight as middle weight champ, will again not be against a middle weight, because he has no interest in fighting anyone at middle weight.

What a warrior.

In case you didn't realise he fought many times before he was a MW , and earned his tag as a warrior.

You're right. And that's why it's such a shame that he is undoing all the good work he did in the rest of his career. If he wants to come in light , fine, but a world title fight should allow a fighter to come in any weight up to the limit.
It's another example of money being more of a priority than the reputation and integrity of the sport.

[imp]

My biggest concern for cotto is when he gets beaten up he really gets beaten up.

Cotto is still very popular even after all these losses he has shown a great boxing iq and his bodywork combinations are impressive.

He will never beat floyd but a rematch against pac at cottos weight would be interesting but with freddie managing the two it will never happen.