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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    What happened last night was bad for the image. reputation and integrity of the sport. It calls it into disrepute and makes a mockery of all the brave men that have battled through unbelievable hardship, and seemingly insurmountable odds to pull a victory out of the fire. Still with any luck Canelo will spark the twat out or Golovkin will finally get the chance to retire the bloke for good at a weight not dictated by Michelle Cotto.

    Geale surprised me by saying he had enough but then even a few rounds of sparring is unwise and terribly punishing after the equivalent of a bad bout of diarrhea or a similar dehydrating unnecessary loss of weight.
    @Greenbeanz you know I have alot of respect for your opinion on here but you're acting like Cotto is the first guy to have ever done this. Manny Pacquiao made Cotto drop weight under the 147 limit despite fighting at that limit before. Before that he made his name beating the corpse of the dehydrated Oscar De La Hoya. He also won a light-middleweight title at 150 so he could call himself an "8 division world champion" against a cheating fucker who should have been kicked out of the sport instead of making alot of money in another prize fight. Yet Pacquiao is hailed as one of the greatest things to happen to the sport. Cotto didn't event it, but if it was acceptable for Pacquiao then why not maximise your bank account?
    Fair point and I have as usual my tongue halfway in cheek when I say it but it does stick in the throat. I have respect for Cotto's ability as any boxing fan would, even now. As a bloke though he has always come across as a bit of a dick and the humble pie schtick always seemed like just that, schtick, an act, now the veneer has dropped and it's more obvious. You are right Manny was also a diva for asking Cotto to drop to 145 for the WBO and some Diamond bollocky belt but if anything that should be more reason fro Cotto to be consistent and demand that his opponents not be put through the same BS as he was.

    The catchweight alone is not the real problem even though it stinks, it's the fact that it is for a belt that the most dominant middleweight for a long time really wants to fight for, and the chance for that same guy to become lineal champ. Cotto could drop it and still fight Canelo, who again is not a middleweight, and yet he again is asking for special treatment and even openly admitting he is not a middleweight and virtually dismissing GGG and his achievements by ignoring the elephant in the room. It sucks donkey's balls and just eats away at Cotto's own legacy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
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    What happened last night was bad for the image. reputation and integrity of the sport. It calls it into disrepute and makes a mockery of all the brave men that have battled through unbelievable hardship, and seemingly insurmountable odds to pull a victory out of the fire. Still with any luck Canelo will spark the twat out or Golovkin will finally get the chance to retire the bloke for good at a weight not dictated by Michelle Cotto.

    Geale surprised me by saying he had enough but then even a few rounds of sparring is unwise and terribly punishing after the equivalent of a bad bout of diarrhea or a similar dehydrating unnecessary loss of weight.
    @Greenbeanz you know I have alot of respect for your opinion on here but you're acting like Cotto is the first guy to have ever done this. Manny Pacquiao made Cotto drop weight under the 147 limit despite fighting at that limit before. Before that he made his name beating the corpse of the dehydrated Oscar De La Hoya. He also won a light-middleweight title at 150 so he could call himself an "8 division world champion" against a cheating fucker who should have been kicked out of the sport instead of making alot of money in another prize fight. Yet Pacquiao is hailed as one of the greatest things to happen to the sport. Cotto didn't event it, but if it was acceptable for Pacquiao then why not maximise your bank account?
    Fair point and I have as usual my tongue halfway in cheek when I say it but it does stick in the throat. I have respect for Cotto's ability as any boxing fan would, even now. As a bloke though he has always come across as a bit of a dick and the humble pie schtick always seemed like just that, schtick, an act, now the veneer has dropped and it's more obvious. You are right Manny was also a diva for asking Cotto to drop to 145 for the WBO and some Diamond bollocky belt but if anything that should be more reason fro Cotto to be consistent and demand that his opponents not be put through the same BS as he was.

    The catchweight alone is not the real problem even though it stinks, it's the fact that it is for a belt that the most dominant middleweight for a long time really wants to fight for, and the chance for that same guy to become lineal champ. Cotto could drop it and still fight Canelo, who again is not a middleweight, and yet he again is asking for special treatment and even openly admitting he is not a middleweight and virtually dismissing GGG and his achievements by ignoring the elephant in the room. It sucks donkey's balls and just eats away at Cotto's own legacy.
    But what did Cotto get for that? Did people say it was BS, or does history just remember that Manny beat the snot out of him and went on to make a boat load of money. So if Cotto receives no sympathy from fans for that then why not make money from doing the same thing? FFS there are blinded people on here who believe that Margarito beat Cotto fair and square and criticise the stoppage in the rematch. I fully understand your point on Golovkin, but he will get his belt eventually. The WBC have already told Cotto he can only delay for Canelo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
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    What happened last night was bad for the image. reputation and integrity of the sport. It calls it into disrepute and makes a mockery of all the brave men that have battled through unbelievable hardship, and seemingly insurmountable odds to pull a victory out of the fire. Still with any luck Canelo will spark the twat out or Golovkin will finally get the chance to retire the bloke for good at a weight not dictated by Michelle Cotto.

    Geale surprised me by saying he had enough but then even a few rounds of sparring is unwise and terribly punishing after the equivalent of a bad bout of diarrhea or a similar dehydrating unnecessary loss of weight.
    @Greenbeanz you know I have alot of respect for your opinion on here but you're acting like Cotto is the first guy to have ever done this. Manny Pacquiao made Cotto drop weight under the 147 limit despite fighting at that limit before. Before that he made his name beating the corpse of the dehydrated Oscar De La Hoya. He also won a light-middleweight title at 150 so he could call himself an "8 division world champion" against a cheating fucker who should have been kicked out of the sport instead of making alot of money in another prize fight. Yet Pacquiao is hailed as one of the greatest things to happen to the sport. Cotto didn't event it, but if it was acceptable for Pacquiao then why not maximise your bank account?
    Fair point and I have as usual my tongue halfway in cheek when I say it but it does stick in the throat. I have respect for Cotto's ability as any boxing fan would, even now. As a bloke though he has always come across as a bit of a dick and the humble pie schtick always seemed like just that, schtick, an act, now the veneer has dropped and it's more obvious. You are right Manny was also a diva for asking Cotto to drop to 145 for the WBO and some Diamond bollocky belt but if anything that should be more reason fro Cotto to be consistent and demand that his opponents not be put through the same BS as he was.

    The catchweight alone is not the real problem even though it stinks, it's the fact that it is for a belt that the most dominant middleweight for a long time really wants to fight for, and the chance for that same guy to become lineal champ. Cotto could drop it and still fight Canelo, who again is not a middleweight, and yet he again is asking for special treatment and even openly admitting he is not a middleweight and virtually dismissing GGG and his achievements by ignoring the elephant in the room. It sucks donkey's balls and just eats away at Cotto's own legacy.
    But what did Cotto get for that? Did people say it was BS, or does history just remember that Manny beat the snot out of him and went on to make a boat load of money. So if Cotto receives no sympathy from fans for that then why not make money from doing the same thing? FFS there are blinded people on here who believe that Margarito beat Cotto fair and square and criticise the stoppage in the rematch. I fully understand your point on Golovkin, but he will get his belt eventually. The WBC have already told Cotto he can only delay for Canelo.
    I am one of those guys that think, well not think but KNOW, Margarito beat Cotto fair & square. He made him kneel in surrender by beating the heck out of him
    And yes Margarito was set to repeat the process in the rematch despite only having one good eye. The doc waited till Margarito was coming on & beating his chest at Cotto & Cotto was slumped in his corner looking beaten to stop the fight. Even though he knew Margarito had only one good eye from round 2. That fight was stopped to save cotto the embarrassment of Quitting AGAIN!!!!!!!
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    Cotto saved his own career by refusing to continue getting hit with plaster casts. Turned out to be a good decision, as he's resurrected his career while Margacheato is all but forgotten. Fight 2 turned into a boxing lesson, after which Cotto looked at Cheato like one looks at a dog turd one has inadvertently stepped on. History will not look kindly upon Tony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C.J.Rock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by bzkfn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    What happened last night was bad for the image. reputation and integrity of the sport. It calls it into disrepute and makes a mockery of all the brave men that have battled through unbelievable hardship, and seemingly insurmountable odds to pull a victory out of the fire. Still with any luck Canelo will spark the twat out or Golovkin will finally get the chance to retire the bloke for good at a weight not dictated by Michelle Cotto.

    Geale surprised me by saying he had enough but then even a few rounds of sparring is unwise and terribly punishing after the equivalent of a bad bout of diarrhea or a similar dehydrating unnecessary loss of weight.
    @Greenbeanz you know I have alot of respect for your opinion on here but you're acting like Cotto is the first guy to have ever done this. Manny Pacquiao made Cotto drop weight under the 147 limit despite fighting at that limit before. Before that he made his name beating the corpse of the dehydrated Oscar De La Hoya. He also won a light-middleweight title at 150 so he could call himself an "8 division world champion" against a cheating fucker who should have been kicked out of the sport instead of making alot of money in another prize fight. Yet Pacquiao is hailed as one of the greatest things to happen to the sport. Cotto didn't event it, but if it was acceptable for Pacquiao then why not maximise your bank account?
    Fair point and I have as usual my tongue halfway in cheek when I say it but it does stick in the throat. I have respect for Cotto's ability as any boxing fan would, even now. As a bloke though he has always come across as a bit of a dick and the humble pie schtick always seemed like just that, schtick, an act, now the veneer has dropped and it's more obvious. You are right Manny was also a diva for asking Cotto to drop to 145 for the WBO and some Diamond bollocky belt but if anything that should be more reason fro Cotto to be consistent and demand that his opponents not be put through the same BS as he was.

    The catchweight alone is not the real problem even though it stinks, it's the fact that it is for a belt that the most dominant middleweight for a long time really wants to fight for, and the chance for that same guy to become lineal champ. Cotto could drop it and still fight Canelo, who again is not a middleweight, and yet he again is asking for special treatment and even openly admitting he is not a middleweight and virtually dismissing GGG and his achievements by ignoring the elephant in the room. It sucks donkey's balls and just eats away at Cotto's own legacy.
    But what did Cotto get for that? Did people say it was BS, or does history just remember that Manny beat the snot out of him and went on to make a boat load of money. So if Cotto receives no sympathy from fans for that then why not make money from doing the same thing? FFS there are blinded people on here who believe that Margarito beat Cotto fair and square and criticise the stoppage in the rematch. I fully understand your point on Golovkin, but he will get his belt eventually. The WBC have already told Cotto he can only delay for Canelo.
    I am one of those guys that think, well not think but KNOW, Margarito beat Cotto fair & square. He made him kneel in surrender by beating the heck out of him
    And yes Margarito was set to repeat the process in the rematch despite only having one good eye. The doc waited till Margarito was coming on & beating his chest at Cotto & Cotto was slumped in his corner looking beaten to stop the fight. Even though he knew Margarito had only one good eye from round 2. That fight was stopped to save cotto the embarrassment of Quitting AGAIN!!!!!!!
    More excuses and crybaby shit. Did you ever do anything else? Cotto beat his ass. Man up to the truth. You won't get far in life making excuses for everything.

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