Tito you really don't think Holyfeild is a top10 heavyweight of all time i got disagree with you on that one. I mean Frazier has one great win and then lost every other fight at heavyweight against the greats. Dempsey did not fight most of greats of his time because they were black and got owned by Tunney Lhw pretty bad in both fights. I dont see how those guys are better then Holyfeild i mean his resume at Hw is better then anyone not name Ali and maybe Lewis. As far as his loses go most of them were after he was 40 years of age and i don't think that should count to hard against the man really like Jones i not counting his loses in his 40's. Anyhow just some thoughts on that i agree with most of the names i guess Jack Johnson for like historical thing but how much of the man have you really seen.